In these modern times, I would expect the BBC to change their name because the modern meaning of BBC has potential to trigger pretty much every type of flake in existence.Yea well....welcome to the modern BBC...
It's now a platform for lunatics and professional victims.
But at least it's made some gold accidental comedy and memes. Who remembers "digital blackface"?
Misogynoir!
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Aren’t threads like these exactly why the BBC has started reporting on seemingly trivial matters? You’re creating a discussion and driving traffic to these ‘ridiculous’ stories.
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I've been saying this for years, at least since the LCY charade where they were desperate to add another vector for racial discrimination. It was about how pollution was racist against against black people and they had a 6 hour long live advertisement campaign to make as many black people see the news that pollution is now racist against black people. I can only assume that there are forces out there trying to promote a riot so that martial law can be implemented.
Well said and better than I could have explained it.
It's getting hard to tell the difference between serious and humour now. I did laugh at the above, I'm assuming it's humour?
Anyway... Misogynair. Ryanair but no black women allowed..
Isn’t it discriminatory that only black women get a coveted prize like that, what a result.
The gaming culture where you are represented by a cartoon avatars and made up names?
Nah tbh I think that's a pretty damn good leveler
I can imagine being a wizard. That doesn't mean I'm a wizard. In fact, in a game I was playing just a few minutes ago I was a wizard. I was female. I wasn't human. I was extremely skilled in sword fighting. Games aren't reality. The freedom of gaming is of course why group identity advocates (especially biological group identity advocates) are objecting. They hate the idea of people not being restricted to the biological group identities they make up and the stereotypes they attach to those identities and they hate the idea of people interacting without those identities because they don't exist in the gameworld (or don't have to reflect reality if they do).
There are aspects of culture that are more challenging to people who have pretty much any biological trait if they make it known, due to biological group identity politics. These people are therefore part of the problem, since they promote biological group politics and the irrational prejudice and discrimination that goes with it. Would you be as "empathetic" to a group that existed for the purpose of being for white male gamers only? There are, of course, aspects of gaming culture (and culture in general) that might be more challenging if you are both male and "white". Or if you have a particular accent. Or if you have blond hair. Or whatever.
I wonder how much of the challenge these people face is due to being "black" women and how much is due to being biological group identity politicians who promote racism and sexism. I also wonder how much of the challenge they face is real and how much is in their own imagination. I also wonder how much is the same as anyone might get when gaming online. Someone being unpleasant to you doesn't necessarily mean they're being unpleasant to you because of your sex and "race", especially when they don't know either of those things. People who believe in biological group identity consider such things as being of such paramount importance that they are a person's identity, but not everyone is that irrationally prejudiced.
Build a wall?
Build a very large wooden horse, lure them into it and haul it away to a remote location
What a lot of words saying a load of nonsense
You don't have to declare your group to have to listen or read the racist or misogynistic exchanges in multiplayer gaming or around gaming culture. It's a constant background noise.
That's an issue black women have to deal with that white men don't . And that white women only partially deal with, or black men only partially deal with.
It's not rocket science.
What a few words saying a lot of nonsense.
I don't care how you or anyone else rationalises sexism, racism or any other irrational prejudice and discrimination. Call it manifest destiny, <insert group here> burden, nature, god's will, blame the target group, whatever. All those excuses have been used or are being used and they're all just that - excuses.
I sure as hell can't.
Perhaps you could list some of the "challenges" that black women gamers face wrt to gaming in particular (not society in general).
"Culture in general" is not relevant when they are setting up exclusionary groups for black, female gamers. It's like saying you need "black women only hospitals" because "culture in general" is challenging for black women. No, please dial in on some specifics, thanks. Otherwise it's just as ridiculous as expecting your own hospitals, shopping malls and schools exclusively for black women.
Quite how they managed to face racism online when there's literally almost no way to tell a person's ethnicity unless you go out of your way to mention it, I'm not sure.
But hey ho I'm sure you have all the answers and can't list a dozen ways that us cis white men are to blame for everything.
You don't care?
Then why waste all those words in your wall of text posts?
You don't care that sexism and racism is rampant in multiplayer gaming, and that it will, naturally, affect those being singled out disproportionately to those who aren't .
But you do seem to care when those singled-out groups say 'hang on, we don't have to put up with this. We're creating our own safe space where we don't have to deal with that'. Then suddenly, you care, and lay out your cares in big long posts about how they're demonising white dudes. Or whatever it is you're trying to argue.
You need to get out of your own head and try to place yourself in other people's with this stuff.
White males are all evil?
I can't say I've seen "rampant racism" in online gaming for a long time now. Maybe I'm just not playing the correct toxic games. Many games don't even have open voice chat these days so I'd like to see specific examples in the original story.
People used to throw the n word around in the old days occasionally in FPSs but I have no clue if any of them were black or not (seeing as that's a free pass). I imagine, "bitch" is still common but saying that's mysoginistic is a stretch when you don't know whether the intended recipient is female or not.
I quite like the way online gaming has gone actually. Easy to ignore or only selectively talk to or message others in most cases. It stops the trash-talking hormonal teenagers from ruining everything.
People used to throw the n word around in the old days occasionally in FPSs but I have no clue if any of them were black or not (seeing as that's a free pass). I imagine, "bitch" is still common but saying that's mysoginistic is a stretch when you don't know whether the intended recipient is female or not.
I quite like the way online gaming has gone actually. Easy to ignore or only selectively talk to or message others in most cases. It stops the trash-talking hormonal teenagers from ruining everything.
you don't understand the concept that over the internet no one know who or what you are unless you broadcast it.
and "more challenging" than who/what? i have gone through plenty of abuse etc, it all means less that **** to me. these people are going on as if the moment they join a lobby they're swamped by a litany of racist misogyny - i don't see how unless their avatar name is IAmABlackFemale or something. people throw out racial epithets to everyone playing, because apparently it's now the cool thing to do, i don't believe it's an example of organised racism.