I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
Moisturiser for men
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I knew this would be your response, as it's the obvious reaction. However..
1. I can prove that the moisturiser I am using works. All I have asserted is this. That claim is not under question by you or anybody else.
2. You claim that 'they are all the same' despite how they are marketed, reports by users, pricing etc.
I am asking you to validate your claim as I dispute it. The onus is in you to provide some evidence. You cannot use the lack of evidence to support your position, otherwise I could simply say: Me "Of course time travel works, I go back to the prehistoric era every day!", You "Prove it", Me "I'll point you towards the lack of evidence today suggestion that this isn't possible.."
Soldato
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Let me guess, you're from Essex?
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I've none left 
Caporegime
The American Psycho quote normally comes in before the 10th post so the fact that it took 80 for it happen has left everyone a little embarrassed that someone went ahead and did it anyway.
It's just so terribly awkward.
Aren't moisturisers specially targeted at men just a big marketing con? It's not like women’s skin would be so different that women’s moisturiser will be unsuitable for men, and I don't think it's usually highly fragranced? A lot of those men’s ones are pretty pricey!
Anyhow, I got some 'Nivea Soft' stuff which can be pretty essential in the crummy British winters and sometimes after shaving. It's cheap and seems to work
Anyhow, I got some 'Nivea Soft' stuff which can be pretty essential in the crummy British winters and sometimes after shaving. It's cheap and seems to work
Let me guess, you haven't seen American Psycho?
Also well done Sherlock seems as its not University semester time and my location says I live in Essex by your amazing powers of deduction you've worked out I'm from Essex. Well Done!
Caporegime
No, womens' faces have less science in them which is why special men only moisturisers were developed by NASA in Area 51 in the months February to April 1971.
Caporegime
I just use E45. Gets rid of my itchy face after I don't shave for a few days.
Soldato
I moisturise, but I've only one used product so far - would be open to recommendations. 
Why the embarrassment? Is it a product of your own personal formulation?I moisturise, but I've only one used product so far - would be open to recommendations.
It's gay if you care, basically.
I don't even know the name of the one I use, it was the first one I saw. I don't expect everyone to be quite so masculine as me, but you get my point.
erm yes I can... the onus is on the cosmetics companies to prove that their magic ingredients have an effect, unless they can do so the default position is that they don't... you're slightly confused as to where the burden of proof lies - its not down to me to go round proving that lots of various different marketing buzzwords don't work rather the burden is on the person making the claim - i.e. the cosmetics companies (or yourself if you're proposing that X does have an effect) to provide evidence for that claim.
The onus would be on them if people stopped buying their products. People buy their stuff regardless so it doesn't matter if they work or not. In fact the cosmetic companies would be daft to test their products.
Soldato
Why the embarrassment? Is it a product of your own personal formulation?
Nah, not embarrassed, just messing around. Got to keep myself looking young! (not that hard. I look much younger than 19 already)
I used some Nivea for men stuff. Wondered what's out there that is better.
Indeed, though my argument is really against PMKeat's view that claiming there is no demonstrable effect of these magic ingredients requires evidence when its really the default position to take unless evidence is provided to show otherwise.
I think it's less clear than that. I think the best position for everybody to take would be that one - that would force testing.
However given that it's not going to happen we have the choice of either sticking to E45 cream and not touching the stuff that from anecdotal evidence may very well help. We need to weigh up how much we're willing to believe that it might work against how much extra it costs.
For example if the moisturiser costs £15 and the cheap stuff costs £10 for 6 months use then it's such a small difference it might be worth taking a punt on it.
On the other hand if it costs £600 for the 6 months then I don't think it is - I'd also disbelieve anyone who claimed it was better, because they're not exactly going to stand up en masse and say "I durr got duped, hurr". If a product is very expensive then practically anyone that buys it becomes an advocate
