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How's that patronising? Most women I know are proud of being mothers. I am unashamedly proud of my mother.

It reinforces the stereotype that women's defining role in life is to have children. Plenty of mothers would prefer to define themselves in other ways - by their career achievements, by their academic achievement or by their sporting achievements.
 
Plenty of mothers would prefer to define themselves in other ways - by their career achievements, by their academic achievement or by their sporting achievements.

Sounds very depressing, being a 'professional' with a PhD before a mother, are these the same type that turn into crazy cat ladies?
 
That is disgraceful. The tweet should have included the Chronicle Career Library of Occupational Briefs list of professions in the entire world.

Something along the lines of "our lionesses go back to being <insert all 932,000 professions here>"

That way we can all be 100% clear that they are absolutely not thought of as just mothers, daughters and partners.

When will we learn
 
It reinforces the stereotype that women's defining role in life is to have children. Plenty of mothers would prefer to define themselves in other ways - by their career achievements, by their academic achievement or by their sporting achievements.

But it had already mentioned their professional/sporting achievements. That was the whole point of the tweet.
 
But it had already mentioned their professional/sporting achievements. That was the whole point of the tweet.

yes but it didn't mention all the possible professional/sporting/academic/jovial/theoretical/virtual/spiritual/intellectual achievements women have in the past, present, and potentially in the future, attained. It is obviously sexist poison designed to humiliate and degrade the fairer gender, can't you see that?

Sign my petition to 'improve' history but re-writing women's roles in the past. I propose we start with Henrietta the 8th, Queen-King of England who had 8 lesbian lovers of equal stature and importance
 
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Since when are daughters or partners subordinate?! Or mothers for that matter?
We have an entire day devoted to mothers. Is that sexist?


The whole point of those three descriptions is that you are defining the women purely in terms of their relationship to a man. You are saying that their position as defined in how they relate to man is more important than any other thing that they might do when not playing football. Like their day jobs, for example.
 
The whole point of those three descriptions is that you are defining the women purely in terms of their relationship to a man. You are saying that their position as defined in how they relate to man is more important than any other thing that they might do when not playing football. Like their day jobs, for example.

You're clearly neglecting my early reply to your previous post. Mothers have daughters. Daughters have mothers. At least one of the women is openly homosexual so her partner is a...That's right, woman!
 
Heres a little example, After she breaks up with you (or you with her) she goes to the club she just has to stand around to get guys begging at her feet to buy her drinks/take her out and talk to her.

And what is your first reaction if a girl approaches you, maybe that she is easy? Who came up with that rule... yep, men.
That is why they let you do the running around, then everyone knows where they stand. We can't complain about the game if we made up all the rules.

I'm tired of hearing how bad woman apparently have it, boo hoo it just gets old.

Yep, but that doesn't stop me from considering that the issues they face are perhaps created by men, and that as a man maybe I should be talking about this a little more.

Like why are so many women being beaten up in their own homes? Clearly some blokes out there are thinking this is OK, how did that happen?
Women not running around saying this is OK so maybe the only people left making excuses for this are men.

Same for rape, how often do we assume he was led on or she asked for it or being drunk makes this OK. Or more often that we just get defensive and refuse to talk about it.
How often are women trolled online or get death threats when they talk about this. Does society really need to react so aggressively?

I don't get any of this stuff because I don't experience it and they might as well be talking Latin, but I can at least recognise that something about society bothers women and we should at least consider our part in this.
 
Like why are so many women being beaten up in their own homes? Clearly some blokes out there are thinking this is OK, how did that happen?
Women not running around saying this is OK so maybe the only people left making excuses for this are men.

Same for rape, how often do we assume he was led on or she asked for it or being drunk makes this OK. Or more often that we just get defensive and refuse to talk about it.
How often are women trolled online or get death threats when they talk about this. Does society really need to react so aggressively?

I don't get any of this stuff because I don't experience it and they might as well be talking Latin, but I can at least recognise that something about society bothers women and we should at least consider our part in this.

Don't worry, if you're a man and the victim of domestic abuse you'll be the one chucked in jail when she plays the victim and then you'll get laughed at by the cops.

How often are fake rape accusations flung around by woman? I suggest you Google mattress girl rape (just 1 of recent amongst many over last couple years). That story cracked me up.

Even though it was proved to be fake (her sending him texts saying she loves it up the pooper were pulled from text message logs), it has still had lasting consequences on a young mans life, he was thrown out of college I think. How is this allowed to go on? why are females not punished for rape claims that turn out to be completely fabricated?
 
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I don't get any of this stuff because I don't experience it and they might as well be talking Latin, but I can at least recognise that something about society bothers women and we should at least consider our part in this.

Many things about society bother many people. Why is it right to only consider those which some people claim bother all women and only women?

I think it's a bad idea to try to appease those people and in any case it's impossible for a man to do so since they regard him as being wrong, guilty and bad by default because of his sex.

The key thing to consider should be the validity of a complaint, not whether or not it's being made in the name of a currently socio-politically favoured group. Unfortunately, the latter has always been the norm (the groups change, but that's a minor detail).
 
And what is your first reaction if a girl approaches you, maybe that she is easy? Who came up with that rule... yep, men.
That is why they let you do the running around, then everyone knows where they stand. We can't complain about the game if we made up all the rules.



Yep, but that doesn't stop me from considering that the issues they face are perhaps created by men, and that as a man maybe I should be talking about this a little more.

Like why are so many women being beaten up in their own homes? Clearly some blokes out there are thinking this is OK, how did that happen?
Women not running around saying this is OK so maybe the only people left making excuses for this are men.

Same for rape, how often do we assume he was led on or she asked for it or being drunk makes this OK. Or more often that we just get defensive and refuse to talk about it.
How often are women trolled online or get death threats when they talk about this. Does society really need to react so aggressively?

I don't get any of this stuff because I don't experience it and they might as well be talking Latin, but I can at least recognise that something about society bothers women and we should at least consider our part in this.

They let men do the approaching because that is considered the norm, it's also the easier position to be in as you don't have to be the one getting rejected. I happen to lurk a lot of different threads in these forums and I can tell you more than a few people have been discouraged from internet dating because of constant rejections, it's not easy putting yourself out there and getting shot down again and again. I'd like to think that any guy who got hit on by a female would probably consider it a refreshing change, but I like that you're trying to assert exactly the opposite.

Have you seen the domestic violence video on youtube(heres one in case you cant be bothered)? I suggest it's worth a watch, a male and a female switch roles being the abusers in a public area. Guess who gets laughed at? Guess which scenario people intervene? That was one small experiment but I have a very hard time believing that could not be applied to anywhere in the western world, what with the general consensus being women are the victims in domestic violence incidents. I can't remember the actual statistics off the top of my head but its a lot closer to 50/50 than you would like to think. There was a study on the male victims of domestic violence(I think it was done somewhere in NA), they found that upon reporting the incident the males were often the ones hauled off to jail even if the women were being the violent ones. They found the same trends with domestic abuse support lines, males reporting domestic abuse were often told they either couldn't be helped or were forwarded to phone lines for ABUSERS. Imagine the feminist hysteria if this was reversed. Believe it or not, women in a same sex relationship are the group most likely to have problems with domestic violence. And nobody is saying domestic violence is ok so I don't know why you are trying to assert the opposite.
 
They let men do the approaching because that is considered the norm, it's also the easier position to be in as you don't have to be the one getting rejected. I happen to lurk a lot of different threads in these forums and I can tell you more than a few people have been discouraged from internet dating because of constant rejections, it's not easy putting yourself out there and getting shot down again and again. I'd like to think that any guy who got hit on by a female would probably consider it a refreshing change, but I like that you're trying to assert exactly the opposite.

Have you seen the domestic violence video on youtube(heres one in case you cant be bothered)? I suggest it's worth a watch, a male and a female switch roles being the abusers in a public area. Guess who gets laughed at? Guess which scenario people intervene? That was one small experiment but I have a very hard time believing that could not be applied to anywhere in the western world, what with the general consensus being women are the victims in domestic violence incidents. I can't remember the actual statistics off the top of my head but its a lot closer to 50/50 than you would like to think. There was a study on the male victims of domestic violence(I think it was done somewhere in NA), they found that upon reporting the incident the males were often the ones hauled off to jail even if the women were being the violent ones. They found the same trends with domestic abuse support lines, males reporting domestic abuse were often told they either couldn't be helped or were forwarded to phone lines for ABUSERS. Imagine the feminist hysteria if this was reversed. Believe it or not, women in a same sex relationship are the group most likely to have problems with domestic violence. And nobody is saying domestic violence is ok so I don't know why you are trying to assert the opposite.

Yup I've seen similar statistics posted in various places I just couldn't be bothered to dig them up.

Sounds about right. Why I can't be bothered with feminism inventing ********. BRB any time you mention something involving men, dismissed. When woman is mentioned automatically we should all stand to attention and take note of their plight. I think false rape claims are the worst of the bunch.... and nothing even gets done about them.

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People, organisations etc. need to start ignoring these 'twitter mobs' which are spun as being some sort of commonly held opinion but are in fact a vocal minority.
 
Have you seen the domestic violence video on youtube(heres one in case you cant be bothered)? I suggest it's worth a watch, a male and a female switch roles being the abusers in a public area. Guess who gets laughed at? Guess which scenario people intervene? That was one small experiment but I have a very hard time believing that could not be applied to anywhere in the western world, what with the general consensus being women are the victims in domestic violence incidents. I can't remember the actual statistics off the top of my head but its a lot closer to 50/50 than you would like to think. There was a study on the male victims of domestic violence(I think it was done somewhere in NA), they found that upon reporting the incident the males were often the ones hauled off to jail even if the women were being the violent ones. They found the same trends with domestic abuse support lines, males reporting domestic abuse were often told they either couldn't be helped or were forwarded to phone lines for ABUSERS. Imagine the feminist hysteria if this was reversed. Believe it or not, women in a same sex relationship are the group most likely to have problems with domestic violence. And nobody is saying domestic violence is ok so I don't know why you are trying to assert the opposite.

The Frankfurt School said history was determined by which groups, defined as males, females, races, religions etc, had power or "dominance" over other groups. Certain groups, especially males, were labeled "oppressors" while other groups were defined as "victims" Victims are automatically good, oppressors bad, just by what group they came from, regardless of individual behaviour. So a male getting beaten by a female is good, even funny, but he is still the oppressor, because he is a male, that's why they are forwarded to phone lines for abusers (males).
 
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