Caporegime
Sexist statement in itself there. Why can't a group of men decide on something? Does our gender exclude us from doing so?
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Sexist statement in itself there. Why can't a group of men decide on something? Does our gender exclude us from doing so?
It's ironic because a group of men have gotten together on the internet to decide that something is not negatively portraying women, without thinking that it may be a good idea to consult any women.
edit: I feel that changing your views on this is probably an impossible job but no harm in having a go eh.
Man of Honour
No, but the inherent cultural biases might.
You're totally dismissing the views of women who consider the tweet to be sexist. You're not affected by this tweet, they are, and yet you considering your own opinion to be more valid.
Textbook sexism.
Permabanned
Just a poorly written but well intentioned tweet blown out of all proportion by people who take getting offended very seriously.
Caporegime
No. I'm considering all opinions to be equally valid. You're assuming that a woman's offense at the tweet is more important than a male who isn't offended. By putting a woman's values above a man's you are being sexist.
Soldato
First, a male dominated forum will, surprise surprise, have a group of men 'gotten' together on the internet to decide something posted on said forum.
Second, I consulted Mrs Tosno, she doesn't think it is sexist.
Soldato
Last night my g/f text to say she was in casualty, I watched the whole thing and didn't see her once, she never came home so I didn't get any tea.
God I'm starving.
God I'm starving.
Man of Honour
It doesn't work like that. You can't not represent half of the story and say that you're coming to a reasoned conclusion.
So you don't consider someone's opinion on a matter to be more important if they've had significant first-hand experience?
Do you want to give birth to a 10 pound football?
Do you fancy bleeding and getting cramps every month and having your hormones go nuts?
Or go from perky and attractive to saggy and neurotic in ten years?
Tall guys have advantages, good looking guys have it cushy too.
Any male can compensate for any of that by working hard and getting the same rewards, a fugly women isn't going anywhere.
Every advantage they have in looks all comes back to what high status male that gets them, so again men are top of the food chain here.
Yes things work in certain ways because both sexes have different roles to play within relationships, but if you thought of it would you swap any of a white male's privilege to be a woman? I bloody wouldn't, no way.
Plus, I can write my name in the snow
Calm down precious. It's your opinion they aren't, unless you're the sole arbiter for deciding such things which I doubt.
In a sporting sense they gave it everything they could and came third in the most popular sport in the world. I don't think the term is wildly out of place. Now I agree, 'hero' and footballers don't normally go together and usually when it's used it denigrates others who rightfully can be labelled as such, but in this case it's probably deserved.
Would you roll your eyes if a young girl who idolised one of the England players told you she was her hero? You can have sporting heroes, people who give their all for their country and teammates. Watching rugby, I've got several - people who quite literally put their bodies on the line where others would shirk.
It doesn't seem sexist at all to me. By saying that it is sexist you are implying that there is something wrong with being a mother, partner or daughter.
I would actually argue that by wrapping females in cotton wool and treating them differently every time an opportunity comes along to interpret something as sexist or against the manner in which it was intended, you are actually perpetuating the problem.
I would actually argue that by wrapping females in cotton wool and treating them differently every time an opportunity comes along to interpret something as sexist or against the manner in which it was intended, you are actually perpetuating the problem.
Man of Honour
The implication is those role are the only thing that they are interested in - which seems a bit of a stretch to me personally.
Caporegime
Significant first hand experience of what? Being a woman? Reading tweets? Being offended?
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Experience of being viewed as a 'mother, partner or daughter' rather than as a person in their own right. Experience of being patronised like this.
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Their choice to to have a kid, nobody is forcing them.
A man has no choice if his wife (he has a choice not to get married which now men are waking up and not doing it) cheats on him then plunges him into financial ruin for several years, i've seen it in person and posted around in various places. Come to think of it a man doesn't have many choices when it all goes south for him (at least when it comes to marriage).
Heres a little example, After she breaks up with you (or you with her) she goes to the club she just has to stand around to get guys begging at her feet to buy her drinks/take her out and talk to her. If you are a guy go to a club and try stand around and see what happens. You get thrown out for looking like a creep and go home all alone/will stand there all night with your hands in your pockets.
I'm tired of hearing how bad woman apparently have it, boo hoo it just gets old. First world problems, go live in a third world country then they can really see what bad treatment/oppression is. The west to me seems fairly equal when it comes to things like jobs, education etc all the things that matter.
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Caporegime
How's that patronising? Most women I know are proud of being mothers. I am unashamedly proud of my mother. Partner implies equality as it's very essence. Every single one of them is someone's daughter.
What a ridiculous thing to say.