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Soldato
The question is, why are you trying to escape from other humans?
Have you seen them?
To be fair I'd happily make a move out to the countryside for my next house. A wee bit of peace and tranquility at the weekends and evenings sounds fine.
The question is, why are you trying to escape from other humans?
Its nice to be able to escape! As an introvert I find people generally exhausting. It's not too bad out in the non touristy spots. As you tend to find like minded people. But it's only going to get worse in near term. So finding somewhere a bit more remote than UK would be great.
Besides. We don't tend to increase local infrastructure anymore. Just endless houses.
Plenty of places England as well. I just spent a week walking north Cornwall and Devon and rarely saw others. The popular places are busy in England but the same is also true for Wales and Scotland.
Soldato
Only 10% of England(/UK?) Is built on.
We should spread out more rather than all pack ourselves in the cities or close suburbs. Then we could all have larger houses with more land, and even if we all had double the space, even then there would be 80% of unbuilt on land left.
Id like to live somewhere more rural where I could safely ride my bike without having to drive to trails. But I also like the ability to pop round the corner and get a Piri Piri chicken and fries.
We should spread out more rather than all pack ourselves in the cities or close suburbs. Then we could all have larger houses with more land, and even if we all had double the space, even then there would be 80% of unbuilt on land left.
Id like to live somewhere more rural where I could safely ride my bike without having to drive to trails. But I also like the ability to pop round the corner and get a Piri Piri chicken and fries.
Add in agriculture and there's not much "wild" true land.
Please don't spread out! Then there will be no wild land left!
Mainly in the west and north. Down south east there really isn't much except urbanised area and fields.
Caporegime
I don't want people in the North
There's already an influx of people moving down here (Anecdotal)
There's already an influx of people moving down here (Anecdotal)
Most of my walking is Hampshire and Sussex, you'd be surprised just how few people there are off of the main paths but also its silly to just brand an entire country overpopulated because of a cluster of urban centres in one area, you'll get that in any country these days.
This won't have the desired impact you hope it would have. What will happen is everything becomes further apart, public transport will be even worse, the ability to walk or cycle short trips disappears and you will have to drive everywhere again and be in worse traffic because everyone else is driving all the time and for further distances. The country will become a worse place to live.
Dense, livable pockets connected by a decent train network and the countryside being the countryside is a much better world to live in. Urban sprawl of detached single family homes surrounding a hollowed out city that you need to drive to for every journey is not a better world. See Strongtowns for more detail on why it is bad.
Caporegime
As @Trifid says. You will get American suburbia and need more spaces for parking than houses for people. Little to zero public transportation and you can say goodbye to corner shops and local fish and chips shops.
As opposed to Singapore, it might be dense but it’s a nice place city to live.
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Main issue is that land ownership in UK is screwed up - who wants to live in a flat which you lease and will need to return after x number of years?
Because here we look for "number of bedroms" rather than sqft, developers ar einsentivised to cram as many tiny coffins as possible into as smallest space as possible leading to most houses and flats being awful. Even in France, they have a 9sqm min area rule as to what can be called a bedroom, here you just have a coffin sized room and call it a bedroom.
Soldato
I see a lot of fields but not much actual agriculture tbh. I wonder how much farmland is never actually used for farming.
Sounds like American suburbia, which Id love to live in. Perfect for me, my car, and my desire for some room to spread out and take on lots of projects like all those YouTubers do.
If I lived in Singapore, could I have a mountain biking hobby, gardening hobbies, a space for my car, space for camping gear, space for my scuba equipment or even any means of taking my scuba gear to actually use it? No to all of those. What would we do for hobbies, sit in tiny flats rotting away?
In America you can have warm weather and desert style mountain bike trails a stones throw from where your house and acre of ranch land is.
There's a few things wrong with the US but they have it pretty good for land, natural resources, and climate.
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Caporegime
Yes, if you have the money. It will cost you like £100k to drive a Toyota Prius for a start. But that’s a Singapore thing mostly.
But we are talking about different things.
One post you talk about using all those space for building houses, so we explained that problem with that. Then instead of sticking to the result of the problem that comes with a spread out housing, which is local infrastructure and transport, you shifted to about your hobbies?
Talk about moving the goal posts.
If we do what you are suggesting and build houses all over the country, where are you going to have your bike trails? It’s all now taken up with houses and parking spaces because you have to drive everywhere. The US has lots of mountains and land but they also have a public infrastructure problem, they can both exist and do. Not sure why you shifted from building houses to talk about climate, mountains and natural resources…
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Good luck finding that much space in SG (unlass you are a millionaire)!
Yah sure, and when you need medical treatment you can pay with your house.
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Soldato
I've never struggled to find places away from other people in the UK, I love being alone in forrest and woodlands, and haven't struggled to find such places anywhere I've lived. Pick somewhere with no car park and get off the main trails, job done, just need to look at a map and walk for a bit.
Soldato
The inflation is already there, people asking for payrises and other price rises in the economy are unstoppable except price fixing scenarios.
The welfare they receive does not come from taxpayers but from the money printer that is what exactly forces inflation.
If the welfare came from taxpayers, inflation would not occur.
Soldato
Just because a field is empty does not mean it is not being utilised for agriculture.
If you have fields being used 24/7 the fields will become poorer through lack of crop rotation, over grazing by livestock etc.
Also empty grass fields may be getting used to grow silage or hay.
Soldato
Not deliberate, I suppose because I see the two topics as interlinked, i.e the abundance of land and resources in the US (and the lack of it here) is what has led to the differences in houses and other things.
There is such a large expanse of available land and resources in the US, it's almost unfathomable in terms of scale. I was playing on flight sim the other day and I flew from Birmingham to North Wales. It took a matter of seconds to fly over the mountains I enjoy walking on. Then I flew across one of the US's airforce bases near Los Angeles, which is almost larger than our whole country.
I'd quite fancy having my own ranch in the US that was so big it would take days to cross it. Amazing lifestyle.
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