Mortgage Rate Rises

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That's an absolutely sensible way of doing things. It's definitely not the reason why most people we know set the term to 35 years though!

It also requires a level of financial discipline that not many people have. It's easy to miss that overpayment 1 month if you've got a holiday coming up or an unexpected bill.

Oh yeah I can imagine some have set it to 35 because that's the maximum they can afford. We figured it was better to have a lower committed monthly payment - just in case we end up with an unexpected big bill, or if one of us lost our jobs etc.

We've overpaid for nearly the last 3 years so would also have the equivalent of an 18 month payment holiday I believe.
 
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It's a straighforward question. You seem to be suggesting both properties having increased in value by 16% isn't relevant as one is immaculate and one derelict.
That isn't what I suggested at all - in fact that was what you suggested -

In percentage terms those increases are about the same.

Unless you were just doing a humble brag at your maths? :confused:
 

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How come? Last year there was free stamp duty. That surely ramped up the property market then it is now?

Sorry, not sure what you mean here. The stamp duty holiday was ******* stupid though. I refuse to believe that whoever thought that up and pushed it through didn't know that it would do **** all apart from increase house prices and demand and save no one any money. I don't know if the government made more money as a result from the uptick in sales but by the very nature of the policy I would suggest not.
 
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That isn't what I suggested at all - in fact that was what you suggested -

A pity you're out otherwise you could explain the point you were making with post:

COVID really changed the "must haves" and "would haves" big time though. Like home office space, outdoor space (hence 1 beds in London getting battered), room for an outdoor office etc etc...

My house has only increased a measly £75k since 2019 because the second room is tiny - the place we are buying increased £120k and it is in considerably worse shape...
 
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It did 16% in spite of being derelict because it met the conditions I put out in must/would haves...let me know how slow/how many pictures you need to follow.
Did it become derelict between 2019 and now? If not, seems like its condition would have already been (at least mostly) priced in, so prices are probably just increasing across the board.
 
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Sorry, not sure what you mean here. The stamp duty holiday was ******* stupid though. I refuse to believe that whoever thought that up and pushed it through didn't know that it would do **** all apart from increase house prices and demand and save no one any money. I don't know if the government made more money as a result from the uptick in sales but by the very nature of the policy I would suggest not.

It was criminal.
It gave free money, and a lot of it. To people who absolutely did not need it.
If you're buying a house in covid. You've got a job, and a decent salary. You do not need help.
What it did is screw future first time buyers who likely contributed in tax to those getting the break.

It was absurd in every way.
 
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Sorry, not sure what you mean here. The stamp duty holiday was ******* stupid though. I refuse to believe that whoever thought that up and pushed it through didn't know that it would do **** all apart from increase house prices and demand and save no one any money. I don't know if the government made more money as a result from the uptick in sales but by the very nature of the policy I would suggest not.
I mean thanks to free stamp duty, it completely ****** up the property market
 
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Did it become derelict between 2019 and now? If not, seems like its condition would have already been (at least mostly) priced in, so prices are probably just increasing across the board.
I'm basing it on the identical house next door. This derelict one hasn't sold for 20 years.
 
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My mortgage went up but my apartment price went down! Apparently people don’t want 1 beds in London :(

Since 2010 our house value has gone up 60-70%. Bloody madness and we do not even live in a London commuter zone but I think a lot of WFH have moved this way for cleaner living. We were looking to sell during covid and houses were barely up for a couple of weeks before selling. Now there is very little for sale.

It wouldn't surprise me in the decades to come if WFH really does take off that a lot of previously hot property will be worth a lot less than it was and people stuck in rubbish houses with negative equity.
 
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Since 2010 our house value has gone up 60-70%. Bloody madness and we do not even live in a London commuter zone but I think a lot of WFH have moved this way for cleaner living. We were looking to sell during covid and houses were barely up for a couple of weeks before selling. Now there is very little for sale.

It wouldn't surprise me in the decades to come if WFH really does take off that a lot of previously hot property will be worth a lot less than it was and people stuck in rubbish houses with negative equity.

Damn, mines 70% as well (in the east mids). Crazy!

Just wish my wages had gone up by the same amount. In fact, my place hasn't given a payrise for the last 10yrs.
 
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Since 2010 our house value has gone up 60-70%. Bloody madness and we do not even live in a London commuter zone but I think a lot of WFH have moved this way for cleaner living. We were looking to sell during covid and houses were barely up for a couple of weeks before selling. Now there is very little for sale.

It wouldn't surprise me in the decades to come if WFH really does take off that a lot of previously hot property will be worth a lot less than it was and people stuck in rubbish houses with negative equity.

For those that haven't watched South Park in a while; this episode was epic at summarising the current housing market.
 
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