Most annoying ignorant comments

wannabedamned said:
.As for the gimmick comments. If this definition of gimmick is correct.

Then i agree :D

The whole quote...

In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use. Thus, a gimmick is a special feature for the sake of having a special feature.

Seems to sum up the Wii and its controller perfectly.
 
andy said:
comments like that annoy me :)

no sources etc , for it to be acceptabloe ill be needing a detailed list of who they copied them off :p

Analog stick - Nintendo
Rumble - Nintendo
Motion Sensor - Nintendo

:p
 
To be a gimmick means the new control method won't take off. Seen has it's better than the tradition controller method of play I wouldn't class this has gimmicky.
 
WatchTower said:
To be a gimmick means the new control method won't take off. Seen has it's better than the tradition controller method of play I wouldn't class this has gimmicky.

Says who? I think its fun initially but I dont think its better than a traditional controller. You cant see anyone using it for competitions against people using an actual controller. I agree its a gimmick, fun at first but the novelty wears off.
 
WatchTower said:
To be a gimmick means the new control method won't take off. Seen has it's better
:confused:

Do you mean seeing as it's better?

It is your opinion that is is better than a traditional pad, not fact. Just because it sold in large numbers doesn't prove anything.
 
Shamikebab said:
Was it though? I could have sworn someone else used it first...


As the primary mode of input on a games console?

Sure you've had Giration mice for years and games like Samba de Amigo but without a doubt it was the Wii that inspired Sony's 'Sixaxis'.
 
it's more inclusive to be honest, it is better than a traditional controller in that it inspires a wider range of participants to play. Speaking as a 360 and Wii owner i know that my mother has never asked me for a game on the 360 whereas quite a few family members want to have a go on the Wii.

It's got the potential to be far more immersive than a traditional controller unless of course you feel that rb + a or somesuch to hit a ball on the volley is more intuitive than actually swinging for the ball.

There seems to be quite a bit of snobbishness with a lot of 'gamers' who almost seem to resent ideas which bring gaming more into mainstream society. Branding any attempts at accessibility as kiddishness.

To some people though they'd much rather games pay at 60fps with billions of things happening on screen at once which is great and cool because it's potato potatoes and we all like what we like but over the next 15 years or so i think that while the game companies might not exactly move away from the traditional gamer fare will increase the attention they give to the mums and uncles and girlfriends as well.

As to which i prefer i need to see more from the wiimote at the moment, i find it very enjoyable and fun but i'm also more used to the traditional controller so we'll just have to see.
 
pumaz said:
1) The Dreamcast and Saturn failed for different reasons. The Dreamcast because Sega didn't promote or back it enough and the Saturn cause it was too expensive and games like Vitua Fighter looked terrible next to the Playstations Ridge Racer.
i was under the impression that both of the above consoles failed because they were both very difficult to code for.
this meant that A)games would take longer to develop and B) it'd take time before developers got to know the machine and howto get the best out of it, although if it wasn't an instant success then the incentive to learn the specific machine would disappear.
 
The_Dark_Side said:
i was under the impression that both of the above consoles failed because they were both very difficult to code for.
this meant that A)games would take longer to develop and B) it'd take time before developers got to know the machine and howto get the best out of it, although if it wasn't an instant success then the incentive to learn the specific machine would disappear.

The saturn was, due to the two Hitachi RISC processors (a second was added in panic after they saw glimpses of the competition - the PS1) but the Dreamcast was a peace of p!ss, as evidenced by the great looking games from day one.
 
Bonjour said:
The saturn was, due to the two Hitachi RISC processors (a second was added in panic after they saw glimpses of the competition - the PS1) but the Dreamcast was a peace of p!ss, as evidenced by the great looking games from day one.
to be honest i was mainly talking about the Saturn, but i did think the same loosely applied to the Dreamcast too.

slightly OT is there any truth in the rumour i've heard that Sony have suggested that the PS3 will be the last playstation?
 
That's what analysts say. I wouldn't be surprised to be honest. Sony lost way more than they thought. Shufflings of the executive board, billions of dollars lost, third place in Japan, and some other factors all contribute to it. The games division traditionally pulled in a lot of the profits for Sony, but it's the other way around with the release of the PS3.
 
Clark Nova said:
You could argue it's the only next-gen console.
I'd like to hear the argument for that. I suppose it's probably because it's the only new console that really changes how you play games. But if that's your definition of a console generation then really saturn/ps1/ps2/xbox were all the same gen, as were NES/SNES/Master System/Megadrive.

I'd say that the Wii is next gen because the 'generation' is really about when the console comes out rather than how powerful it is. Since it came out around the same sort of time as 360 and PS3, it's in the same generation.
 
The_Dark_Side said:
to be honest i was mainly talking about the Saturn, but i did think the same loosely applied to the Dreamcast too.

slightly OT is there any truth in the rumour i've heard that Sony have suggested that the PS3 will be the last playstation?

Ken Kutaragi when he left Sony earlier this year said that he is still going to have a hand in PS4,5,6 etc. Take that to mean whatever you like, but guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.
 
There is no way a company that has had such success in gaming would pull out of the industry just because their latest machine has started slowly, they have a long term business model that accounted for losses at the begining of this cycle. Things will turn around for sony, as the price comes down on the ps3 it will become one of the most bang for buck pieces of consumer electronics products around. I think all this talk of sonys demise in the games industry is foolish and talk of ps3's immediate decent in to oblivion greatly exaggerated and premature, time will tell as this console war is a marathon not a sprint. I for one would like to see a 3 way split in the market with each console continuing to offer something unique to the consumer ( it would also make the next round very interesting ).
 
Needles said:
There is no way a company that has had such success in gaming would pull out of the industry just because their latest machine has started slowly, they have a long term business model that accounted for losses at the begining of this cycle. Things will turn around for sony, as the price comes down on the ps3 it will become one of the most bang for buck pieces of consumer electronics products around. I think all this talk of sonys demise in the games industry is foolish and talk of ps3's immediate decent in to oblivion greatly exaggerated and premature, time will tell as this console war is a marathon not a sprint. I for one would like to see a 3 way split in the market with each console continuing to offer something unique to the consumer ( it would also make the next round very interesting ).

Sony has already lost this round, they will not recover, even Japan has sunk them.
 
Needles said:
There is no way a company that has had such success in gaming would pull out of the industry just because their latest machine has started slowly, they have a long term business model that accounted for losses at the begining of this cycle. Things will turn around for sony, as the price comes down on the ps3 it will become one of the most bang for buck pieces of consumer electronics products around. I think all this talk of sonys demise in the games industry is foolish and talk of ps3's immediate decent in to oblivion greatly exaggerated and premature, time will tell as this console war is a marathon not a sprint. I for one would like to see a 3 way split in the market with each console continuing to offer something unique to the consumer ( it would also make the next round very interesting ).

Nice string of cliches! :p

Just kidding. :)
 
Needles said:
There is no way a company that has had such success in gaming would pull out of the industry just because their latest machine has started slowly,
i agree, but that's not why i'd heard they were calling it a day.
apparently the PS suffers badly from piracy (worse than the competition so i'm led to believe) and it's this unearnt revenue that's making them think again about developing their next console.
 
Bonjour said:
Analog stick - Nintendo
Rumble - Nintendo
Motion Sensor - Nintendo

:p

wich nintendo had a motion sensor ?

and i thought by anaolgue they meant anologue buttons , joysticks have been around for donkey years, god knows how made em
 
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