Most of what you believe about a healthy diet is probably not true.

AndyCr15 said:
Tbf, that's not an issue with the system... 3½ years on and I'm still doing fine.


I won't lie, if I'm trying to drop a pound or two, after perhaps a big weekend where I've not controlled things so much, I do spend most of my day hungry, but I don't see that being different when I eat different things. I don't know if it's a metabolism thing, I can eat until stuffed and will still feel hungry 2 or 3 hours later... :(


Thanks for the shout-out. One thing that really made me feel good, I worked in a shop while I was losing weight and quite a few people came up to me saying I'd inspired them to do better. Brought a tear to my eye on occasion.
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If you still eat quite a lot of carbs daily then it's an insulin thing, when you eat carbs it spikes insulin which triggers your body to turn glucose in to fat to reduce your blood sugar level, so after 2-3 hours of not eating your blood sugar level starts to drop but it takes time for the insulin to drop in which time your body tells you your blood sugar is too low so you get hungry and the whole process starts again.

After a couple of days of not eating carbs (they suggest less than 50g of net carbs but I generally do ok on less than 100g), your not in that cycle of constantly pumping insulin and the hunger subsides. Eating fat and to a lesser extent protein makes me feel satiated and I can go 20 hours without food without any negatives (on calorie control I would feel hungry like all the time and dizzy if I tried to walk up stairs - i get none of that with keto)

calorie control also did nothing for my blood pressure where as keto has dropped it 10 points in a few months
 
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skipping breakfast has health benefits? I prefer my brain to work thanks :p

Just got back from Morrisons (peasant) but they hadn’t restocked so no vegetables

Grated Cheese (yes lazy) seemed to have gone up to £2.49 among other price hikes. My usual shower gel £1.49 from £1

Back to Aldi it is (where I usually go)
 
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dacads said:
skipping breakfast has health benefits? I prefer my brain to work thanks :p

Just got back from Morrisons (peasant) but they hadn’t restocked so no vegetables

Grated Cheese (yes lazy) seemed to have gone up to £2.49 among other price hikes. My usual shower gel £1.49 from £1

Back to Aldi it is (where I usually go)
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Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but the whole mantra of Breakfast being the most important meal of the day was created by one of the cereal companies. The benefits of not having breakfast if you are NOT diabetic (this is crucial) are amazing. The reason for this is down to intermittent fasting. Let's say you eat your last meal at 7pm and then don't eat until 1pm the following day, that's 18 hours without food.

One of the first things your body does when during this period is utilise damaged cells by breaking them down. Also it decreases insulin resistance which is key in preventing the development of diabetes.

Honestly it is difficult for the first 3-5 days but after that it's relatively easy. You will feel sharper and less lethargic.
 
dacads said:
skipping breakfast has health benefits? I prefer my brain to work thanks :p
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On the odd occasion I actually have breakfast, I feel sluggish, lethargic and struggle to get going with the day. I generally first eat around 11AM/12PM and it works better for me. I haven't eaten breakfast on a regular basis for probably 20+ years. However we're all different and there is no right/wrong way, what works for me might not work for another.

You could technically say any food you eat after waking is breakfast though, whether that's 7AM or 2PM, as you're 'breaking the fast' from the night before.
 
Going without breakfast first thing is great, but I've found a small bowl of porridge works for me when I'm doing cardio eatly morning.
 
"Fasting is an ancient practice whose purpose and benefit span across the three Abrahamic faiths"

I recall some guy chatting about doing the Jesus or Moses method of 3 on 2 off (or similar) spouting all different health benefits, seemed to be a bit of a weirdo however.
 
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flibbage0 said:
Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but the whole mantra of Breakfast being the most important meal of the day was created by one of the cereal companies. The benefits of not having breakfast if you are NOT diabetic (this is crucial) are amazing. The reason for this is down to intermittent fasting. Let's say you eat your last meal at 7pm and then don't eat until 1pm the following day, that's 18 hours without food.

One of the first things your body does when during this period is utilise damaged cells by breaking them down. Also it decreases insulin resistance which is key in preventing the development of diabetes.

Honestly it is difficult for the first 3-5 days but after that it's relatively easy. You will feel sharper and less lethargic.
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I do it all the time. Normally have dinner normal time around 4-6PM depending what time I get in then I won't eat till around 10am the next day. Massive change from childhood when I would always have a bowl of Frosties before school.
 
Uther said:
Going without breakfast first thing is great, but I've found a small bowl of porridge works for me when I'm doing cardio eatly morning.
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Two things that only death will make give up is my morning bowl of porridge (with added dessicated coconut, banana, sunflower seeds, Greek yoghurt, crunchy peanut butter and rhubarb and ginger conserve), and bean to cup coffee.
 
Kelt said:
Two things that only death will make give up is my morning bowl of porridge (with added dessicated coconut, banana, sunflower seeds, Greek yoghurt, crunchy peanut butter and rhubarb and ginger conserve), and bean to cup coffee.
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Usually honey and blueberries for me. As for the coffee, I feel like I can't move without that first thing. Probably another filthy habit I should give up!
 
Yep, fruits contain fructose, which is similar to any sugar. So when healthy people avoid sugar and eat a lot of fruit it does not make sense. And eating lots of sugar affects your testosterone level and correspondingly your libido in a very bad way. I have a lot of friends who started having trouble with their libido after their 30s. They all had to redefine their diet. For example, my brother stopped eating all fast food and fried food with a lot of fat. He also uses regen50 prostate supplement to avoid prostatitis and any prostate-related diseases.
 
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KenyaM said:
Yep, fruits contain fructose, which is similar to any sugar. So when healthy people avoid sugar and eat a lot of fruit it does not make sense.
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The difference being its being consumed with all the fibre, vitamins and minerals of the fruit, not just a straight shot of sugar.
Fructose is good for keeping a metabolism going at a decent rate during a diet too.
 
Thread contents living up to threat title. I don’t blame people though, it’s easy to confidently parrot whatever you’re read online or watched on a BBC or Netflix doc without realising it’s guff.
 
Somnambulist said:
Thread contents living up to threat title. I don’t blame people though, it’s easy to confidently parrot whatever you’re read online or watched on a BBC or Netflix doc without realising it’s guff.
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Most of the stuff posted has been decent information, I would disagree with the stuff about fasting having any kind of benefits over the same calories/diet being consumed over a normal days eating though.
 
Le Clandestin Brun said:
That is the problem, large cups of tea helped me sustain my hunger, however they all have a teaspoon (of half spoon, so half sweetener and half sugar) but at between ~5-10 cups a day it adds up. I don't consume sugar elsewhere, apart from when I cook (but mostly try to use honey) however with my ancestory and what-not I'm bound for diabeetus and heart disease at some point so know I need to cut it out completely. Tea tastes so nasty unsweetened :(
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If you're drinking 40grams of sugar daily just in your tea (which alone makes up your entire RDA), I bet everything without sugar added to it tastes nasty.

If I've been on a snack / sugar binge (e.g. Christmas) I can definitely tell that I lose my "sensitivity" to the taste of sugar. If I cut sugar out of my diet entirely for a couple of weeks my taste resets.

I used to have sugar in my tea too,
but after weaning myself off it the milk adds enough sugar to flavour my tea now.
 
Salty22 said:
Most of the stuff posted has been decent information, I would disagree with the stuff about fasting having any kind of benefits over the same calories/diet being consumed over a normal days eating though.
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Fasting is about hormonal responses more than just pure calories. You can still consume the same calories and get the health benefits from fasting. If you eat 3k calories following a healthy balanced diet with exercise and keep it the same but with fasting your body composition and hormonal profile will improve.
 
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