MotoGP 2013
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feel sorry for MM what a mess
Lorenzo my just nick the championship now
Lorenzo my just nick the championship now
A good battle going on with Ros, Cal and Bau and they're focusing on Lor and Dan on their own and the pit crews.
Doesn't seem fair that Ped still gets 2nd despite speeding in the pit lane and MM gets black flagged for coming in a lap late.
Doesn't seem fair that Ped still gets 2nd despite speeding in the pit lane and MM gets black flagged for coming in a lap late.
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Associate
Wow , good exciting race.
Soldato
I missed it but getting the replay now 
but getting the replay now 
Soldato
I don't understand how you can black flag someone for making an error on something they never have to do?! Its stupid!
Associate
It's really a sketchy rule, technically he didn't do more than 10 laps. I guess race direction is eager to penalize MM due to all the criticism they have received lately, I just hope the championship isn't decided due to this pathetic tyre situation.
Soldato
I thought rule was the same as a F1 drive through you have a number of laps to do it in or your out.
They all had to stick to the same rules so I can't see a problem with what's happened.
But a good race by Cal, I just hope he gets his starts sorted out before next year.
Soldato
what a shambles! mandatory pit stops is a joke in moto GP and ruined the race.
pit lane exit was a death trap, it could have been tragic between MM and Lor, and not really their fault because of the speed difference. do we need another Simoncelli taken out in his prime?
only good battle was Val, Cal and Bau on last lap, unfortunately the TV producers completely missed it
pit lane exit was a death trap, it could have been tragic between MM and Lor, and not really their fault because of the speed difference. do we need another Simoncelli taken out in his prime?
only good battle was Val, Cal and Bau on last lap, unfortunately the TV producers completely missed it
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Soldato
What a mess. Exciting but for all the wrong reasons. Pit exit was dangerous and was so lucky no one got seriously hurt. Black flag for MM was all a bit daft. If Bridgestone couldn't make a tyre to last the race then they should have just made it a 10 lap race.
Soldato
Bridgestone bringing Pirelli F1 style nonsense to MotoGP. Tut tut.
Soldato
I don't think that's fair. The tyres haven't played that much of a part all season, and this circuit had just been resurfaced and was particularly abrasive.
Great weekend from Brad Binder. That chap'll be lighting up MotoGP in two years time
Soldato
True tyres haven't been a big factor until now.
It can't have been too difficult though for Bridgestone to get hold of a bike not necessarily a motoGP bike and done a test. Even people doing trackdays or amateur stuff were saying that their tyres were taking a hammering.
It can't have been too difficult though for Bridgestone to get hold of a bike not necessarily a motoGP bike and done a test. Even people doing trackdays or amateur stuff were saying that their tyres were taking a hammering.
Associate
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/...ridgestone-damaged-motogp-144758566--spt.html
"Bridgestone have to make more effort to improve the harder tyre," Rossi said.
"The harder tyre this year has never worked for anybody. In all the races everybody is forced to use the soft because the harder tyre doesn't work."
Kinda says it all really, sure it isn't F1 where they degrade rapidly since they have to last the race (or are meant to
) but the riders only have 1 choice for the race.
Soldato
Yeah the comms said they tried the special super hard compound tyre Bridgestone brought and it degraded worse than the softer ones!
Think they've got some work to do in that regard in the off season.
I'm kind of interested to know where the stewards cooked Marquez's penalty up from as I guess no rule for such a penalty existed as pit stop windows have not happened before so you wouldn't have needed a penalty. Think a drive through would have been more than harsh enough really.
Pedrosas penalty was a confusingly worded mess as well. 'Drop 1 place' was that supposed to mean he had to drop back 1 place or he was going to be penalised 1 place off his finishing position? Obviously it was the first one but hardly made clear and even Rossi didn't seem to know at the end.
The whole thing was a shambles really.
Think they've got some work to do in that regard in the off season.
I'm kind of interested to know where the stewards cooked Marquez's penalty up from as I guess no rule for such a penalty existed as pit stop windows have not happened before so you wouldn't have needed a penalty. Think a drive through would have been more than harsh enough really.
Pedrosas penalty was a confusingly worded mess as well. 'Drop 1 place' was that supposed to mean he had to drop back 1 place or he was going to be penalised 1 place off his finishing position? Obviously it was the first one but hardly made clear and even Rossi didn't seem to know at the end.
The whole thing was a shambles really.
its looking like another shambles this weekend in japan.
from Race Direction
On Friday, all practice sessions were called off as heavy cloud cover at Twin Ring Motegi meant the medical helicopter could not be operated. On the grounds of safety, the aircraft must be operable in order to cater for any medical emergencies which could arise. This was explained in a press conference on Friday afternoon.
"We are not prepared to run in these conditions when there is a risk that a seriously injured rider could not be given correct care," commented MotoGP™ Race Director Mike Webb.
"The reason no helicopter is here is that, with the low cloud, there is a lack of visibility in which it is not safe to fly. The helicopter has been trying to get permission to fly to the circuit since Thursday and has even tried to take off and then been told to land again. As soon as permission was granted that it could be taken off, we would have given ten minutes’ notice to the teams, but the helicopter was never given permission to fly."
For Saturday, heavy rain is expected to fall in the morning but Race Direction hopes that, by the afternoon, the cloud cover should have abated which would allow the medical helicopter to operate. Currently situated five minutes’ flying time from the circuit, should cloud cover in its current location remain too much the helicopter will be dissembled, transported to the race track by road and then reassembled. A medical helicopter must be available at the circuit at all times and across Friday time has been spent analysing the best possible locations for its positioning around the circuit, in order to avoid the need of taking off or landing amidst any further heavy cloud cover at the circuit, which is situated on high ground.
In the meantime, Race Direction has developed a number of contingency plans in order to provide each of the three classes with as much track time as possible; this could be spread across Saturday and Sunday, half of Saturday and a full Sunday or a condensed routine of practice, qualifying and races all on Sunday should Saturday conditions remain too poor. The weather on Sunday is forecast to be a significant improvement in comparison with the conditions witnessed so far.
"The length of sessions depends on the weather," Webb continues. "I have written up draft schedules for all possibilities tomorrow, including starting in the afternoon after rain in the morning which could ease at around two o’clock. It depends around what time the weather conditions will allow us to run. We will give as much track time as possible to all classes. Nothing is fixed because it depends on the weather, but I’m aiming at 75 minutes for MotoGP™ and perhaps a little shorter for other classes. Taking into account the shortage of daylight at the end of the day, we will just run for as long as possible. We also have a draft schedule for Sunday; we have prepared a possible plan, in case we don’t have any practice tomorrow, which would be 40 minutes for each qualifying session. Also, teams have proposed that perhaps they would like a single, longer practice session rather than two. We need to discuss this with the riders as well, to make sure they agree with these possibilities.
"The original weather forecast when we arrived here on Tuesday and Wednesday was that the nearby typhoon would be quite close with very strong winds, so we made a plan that tents (housing several of the teams in the paddock) would be disassembled and those teams moved into solid accommodation. Every day those forecasts have got better, so we have been able to leave those teams in place. However, in place of those strong winds we have had low cloud cover which has been a lot worse (disrupting track action). We are still expecting heavy rain tomorrow morning, but rain does not stop the helicopter from flying – that all depends on the visibility."
Once the Saturday weather has been analysed, further plans will be revealed.
from Race Direction
On Friday, all practice sessions were called off as heavy cloud cover at Twin Ring Motegi meant the medical helicopter could not be operated. On the grounds of safety, the aircraft must be operable in order to cater for any medical emergencies which could arise. This was explained in a press conference on Friday afternoon.
"We are not prepared to run in these conditions when there is a risk that a seriously injured rider could not be given correct care," commented MotoGP™ Race Director Mike Webb.
"The reason no helicopter is here is that, with the low cloud, there is a lack of visibility in which it is not safe to fly. The helicopter has been trying to get permission to fly to the circuit since Thursday and has even tried to take off and then been told to land again. As soon as permission was granted that it could be taken off, we would have given ten minutes’ notice to the teams, but the helicopter was never given permission to fly."
For Saturday, heavy rain is expected to fall in the morning but Race Direction hopes that, by the afternoon, the cloud cover should have abated which would allow the medical helicopter to operate. Currently situated five minutes’ flying time from the circuit, should cloud cover in its current location remain too much the helicopter will be dissembled, transported to the race track by road and then reassembled. A medical helicopter must be available at the circuit at all times and across Friday time has been spent analysing the best possible locations for its positioning around the circuit, in order to avoid the need of taking off or landing amidst any further heavy cloud cover at the circuit, which is situated on high ground.
In the meantime, Race Direction has developed a number of contingency plans in order to provide each of the three classes with as much track time as possible; this could be spread across Saturday and Sunday, half of Saturday and a full Sunday or a condensed routine of practice, qualifying and races all on Sunday should Saturday conditions remain too poor. The weather on Sunday is forecast to be a significant improvement in comparison with the conditions witnessed so far.
"The length of sessions depends on the weather," Webb continues. "I have written up draft schedules for all possibilities tomorrow, including starting in the afternoon after rain in the morning which could ease at around two o’clock. It depends around what time the weather conditions will allow us to run. We will give as much track time as possible to all classes. Nothing is fixed because it depends on the weather, but I’m aiming at 75 minutes for MotoGP™ and perhaps a little shorter for other classes. Taking into account the shortage of daylight at the end of the day, we will just run for as long as possible. We also have a draft schedule for Sunday; we have prepared a possible plan, in case we don’t have any practice tomorrow, which would be 40 minutes for each qualifying session. Also, teams have proposed that perhaps they would like a single, longer practice session rather than two. We need to discuss this with the riders as well, to make sure they agree with these possibilities.
"The original weather forecast when we arrived here on Tuesday and Wednesday was that the nearby typhoon would be quite close with very strong winds, so we made a plan that tents (housing several of the teams in the paddock) would be disassembled and those teams moved into solid accommodation. Every day those forecasts have got better, so we have been able to leave those teams in place. However, in place of those strong winds we have had low cloud cover which has been a lot worse (disrupting track action). We are still expecting heavy rain tomorrow morning, but rain does not stop the helicopter from flying – that all depends on the visibility."
Once the Saturday weather has been analysed, further plans will be revealed.
ben spies has retired, thought it was coming months ago but still a shock to read
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/spies+announces+his+retirement
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/spies+announces+his+retirement
