That dodge is a Toyota or have I missed a trick?
I suspect he's referring to the Dodge Challenger a few posts up
That dodge is a Toyota or have I missed a trick?
I suspect he's referring to the Dodge Challenger a few posts up
[Video about Group B]
A rally driver took an unmodified Group B rally car onto a Formula 1 racetrack shortly before the Portugese grand prix was to be held there. He had the 4th fastest qualifying time. With enough time to learn the track, a rally driver in a Group B car could have won a F1 race.
A bit of an urban legend that one.
I can't really see it being true to be honest. A late-spec Group B car like the Delta S4 had approx 650bhp and weighed about 950kg. The contemporary 1986 F1 turbo car was 540kg and had 1200bhp in qualifying trim (950bhp with race boost), much wider slick tyres and significant amounts of downforce. If the S4 got within 10 seconds I'd be surprised.
Don't for a second think I'm calling the Group B drivers a big girls blouse, it just common sense says it's not possible. The cars and the drivers were very special.
Good points. My fault for not checking.
One refinement of the urban legend adds an interesting factor - heavy rain and a soaking wet track. I'm now wondering if it would be closer in those conditions because the rally car would be better suited to bad conditions.
You'd have to be a special sort of brave to race an F1 car running 4.5 bar boost in the wet.
It's very possible, the Group B rally cars were very adaptable as they ran 4WD and special stages were usually ran on gravel and mud, even snow.
You'd have to be a special sort of brave to race an F1 car running 4.5 bar boost in the wet.
Just by sheer chance I think I found the source that created the urban legend. Check out the interview with Walter Rohrl at the beginning.
There's also an interesting bit at 2 minutes in. Unless my ears (and/or laptop speakers) are confusing me that very much sounds like a seamless shift gearbox.
Think thats Hannu Mikkola at the beginning?