Motorsport Off Topic Thread

[this_is_gav]

The problem is, aside from checking for vital signs and, in the absence of medical assistance, resuscitation, what's a marshall to do?

The guy on the ground seems to be moving, albeit very little, so perhaps he isn't the initial concern, at least not until you've assessed both (and apparently the marshall wasn't seriously hurt, so perhaps they judged it well).

What annoys me is the speed at which the guy on the ground was moved. It's something the Japanese always do without thinking (just watch any bike race in Japan), whereas in most other countries would ensure there's no back or neck injuries which could be made worse by hauling someone away.

 

[Mr Men]

Red Bull and Torro Rosso confirm using Renault engines in 2014, shock

 

[FrankJH]

That's pretty cool. Must cost Mercedes a fair whack to hook up the electronics for two separate designs of wheel though.

Surely its a software template - and would take a few seconds to change?

 

[Nismo]

Onboard of Schumacher going round the 'Ring in a Merc. F1 car...

Seems to suffer from some weird juddering after a few minutes.

 

[Shimmy]

Really interesting article from Adam Cooper here on swapping the rear Pirelli tyres during this season.
http://adamcooperf1.com/2013/05/28/...eal-change-will-handicap-tyre-swapping-teams/

Seems some teams found out as early as winter testing that swapping the rear left and right tyres gave a performance advantage. Mercedes only tried this for the first time in Monaco.

Pirelli are set to bring in the new kevlar belted spec tyres in Montreal which will make this practice futile. Could see a change of fortunes at the next race, which will make the Mercedes test even more controversial.

Edit: photo evidence.

And an update. https://twitter.com/adamcooperf1/status/339660473811230720

 

[GravyMonster]

Here's the reverse angle of that Ferrari crash at Suzuka. Still not clear exactly what happened though.

 

[Mr Men]

Really interesting article from Adam Cooper here on swapping the rear Pirelli tyres during this season.
http://adamcooperf1.com/2013/05/28/...eal-change-will-handicap-tyre-swapping-teams/

Seems some teams found out as early as winter testing that swapping the rear left and right tyres gave a performance advantage. Mercedes only tried this for the first time in Monaco.

Pirelli are set to bring in the new kevlar belted spec tyres in Montreal which will make this practice futile. Could see a change of fortunes at the next race, which will make the Mercedes test even more controversial.

Edit: photo evidence.

And an update. https://twitter.com/adamcooperf1/status/339660473811230720

Hmmm I wonder if this swapping tyres could also be to blame for the failures?

 

[Shimmy]

Hmmm I wonder if this swapping tyres could also be to blame for the failures?

Certainly possible.

Some further speculation that some teams have been experimenting swapping of tyres in previous seasons. But it's very hard to spot as many teams haven't marked their tyres like Mercedes have.

 

[Nismo]

Can someone explain the swapping of tyres to me? Do they wear in a different way to normal because of the opposite rotation, and therefore degrade less, or is it just purely for more grip?

 

[Shimmy]

Can someone explain the swapping of tyres to me? Do they wear in a different way to normal because of the opposite rotation, and therefore degrade less, or is it just purely for more grip?

I haven't seen any in depth analysis, just noted as 'performance' improvement.

Seems it's been practiced for a while, some reports of people experimenting this technique with Bridgestone tyres.


Update on Pirelli tyres for Montreal, new spec tyres will be used in FP only.

 

[Guerrilla]

Kobayashi drove a Ferrari in preparation for an upcoming demonstration event... Hope to see him back racing an F1 car next year.

 

[Skeeter]

He's a Ferrari factory GT driver now. I doubt they are looking at him as a potential Massa replacement. He's just a driver they have on their books who can drive F1 cars for demos.

 

[Guerrilla]

Yea, I wasn't thinking for Ferrari necessarily, maybe he could get a driver with one of their engine customers or something? Not sure it's likely or not, but I'd still like to see him back in F1

 

[kaiowas]

Can someone explain the swapping of tyres to me? Do they wear in a different way to normal because of the opposite rotation, and therefore degrade less, or is it just purely for more grip?

I know that a few years ago some of the guys who race MR2s in a series where the Toyo R888 was used as a control tyre claimed that they gave slightly more grip when used the wrong way around. In the case of the R888 it's a grooved tyre where the grooves are intended to run in a particular direction to clear water but in the dry there was supposedly a performance advantage to running them backwards (obviously if it rained you were stuffed!).

 

[tummelv]

Can someone explain the swapping of tyres to me? Do they wear in a different way to normal because of the opposite rotation, and therefore degrade less, or is it just purely for more grip?

Is it possibly because when you are in a high speed corner the outside tyre on the front wears faster because it's got more load and the wheelspinning rears do something similar? It would let the wear be more even? Complete guess!

 

[Kevin Clark]

 

[Reaper 392]

I posted this in GD but its probably better off here:

 

[arknor]

or
Tyres for all the teams.

extra tyres for mercedes

Can someone explain the swapping of tyres to me? Do they wear in a different way to normal because of the opposite rotation, and therefore degrade less, or is it just purely for more grip?

the tread on the tyres ends up backwords and provides more grip.

Spoiler

hopefully you aren't that gullible since they are slicks trololol

 

[GravyMonster]

Mercedes have confirmed that Williams will be using their engines from next year.

 

[MarcLister]

Mercedes have confirmed that Williams will be using their engines from next year.

So Williams believe Mercedes will have the best engines from 2014 onwards. Or they aren't too happy with the Renaults.

http://www.williamsf1.com/Team/Medi...s-Benz-announce-long-term-engine-partnership/

Toto Wolff mentions 3 teams getting Mercedes engines on a long term basis. Obviously Mercedes F1 and Williams. Is there another confirmed team? I know McLaren will use the 2014 but not the 2015 engine.