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Haha.

I wonder why they are only blanking the windows today? I'd expect the 2014 car to have been in development well before now?

Or maybe before it could 'hide in plain site', i.e. you wouldn't be able to tell from a casual glance if they were working on 2013 or 2014 bits. But now anything that's being worked on is for next year or beyond.
 
Skeeter said:
Haha.

I wonder why they are only blanking the windows today? I'd expect the 2014 car to have been in development well before now?

Or maybe before it could 'hide in plain site', i.e. you wouldn't be able to tell from a casual glance if they were working on 2013 or 2014 bits. But now anything that's being worked on is for next year or beyond.
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Ah no only one area getting done today, the rest was done a month or more back.
 
He's the last of the generation of F1 drivers immune to the PR gag :(. Its all scripted answers and not speaking your mind from here on out :(.
 
FrankJH said:
Fantastic read - he really will be missed.

Always been a fan of Porsche so going to keep an eye on him, but the F1 grid just wont be the same
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He sure will and it sure won't :(


Apparently he is going to be racing the Bathurst 12hr in 2015 with Eric Bana :cool:
 
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well 2/10 for maldonado is about the only score I agree with, and I'm blinkered by the fact that I've never disliked a sportsperson as much as I dislike Maldonado. Not even some of those english footballers. At the best of times these rankings are subjective and suspect, but this is one is just nonsense almost all the way through. Bottas 5/10, scores the same as chilton? What? Grosjean 9/10??? Maybe some of that pay driver money got filtered through to whoever wrote that article.
 
The article has given some strange scores.
Kimi, who outscored Grosjean, taking part in fewer races, scored less?
Chilton - I always finished last - scored 5.

Alonso was about the only top line driver to more than double his team-mates score and he scores 8.

Vettel, doesnt double Webber's score, scores 10.

The only drivers which can directly be compared are those driving the same car, which why I always use team-mates as my basis for comparison.

For me:
Vettel: 9.5 (for winning 9 races in a row...and counting)
Alonso: 9 (for more than doubling his team-mates score)
Button: 7 (as per the article)
Perez 5 (as per the article)
Hamilton/Rosberg: 7.5 (neither did anything unbelievably special, but they were solid)
Kimi: 8.5
Grosjean: 7.5

Perhaps we should give Perez the fastest car on the grid, by 1s. Watch him win 10 races in a season and then give him 10/10.
 
Grosjean had a completely woeful half of a season, but gets a 9/10, lol. At best I'd give him a 7, maybe a 8-8.5 for the latter part of the season and a 5-6 for the first half of the season or so. Kimi was excellent when the car was less good and dealt with the less predictable tyres much better, and was much better on track. Grosjean has excelled while Kimi has been injured then not racing, but by that stage the Lotus was the much more consistent second best car on track.

Rosberg/Hamilton getting the same score when one of those had a lot more bad luck. Rosberg was gifted a win when Hamilton had it ripped away from him, and he still beat him, he was learning a new car, and wasn't gifted a win and still beat him. Scoring them the same is utterly insane.

Alonso had a poor year for me, Vettel had no pressure at all and easily the best car for over half the season. He drove well, and made very few mistakes but it was a painfully easy season for him, to give him 10/10 is absurd.

Chilton being so utterly and completely beaten, getting a 5/10? Worth at best a 2/10 and that 2 for not smashing into everything that moved.

lol at Hulkenberg as well, while a much stronger season than Gutierez, he had a few good races on tracks where the car was strong and he had the straight line speed to be a road block. He wasn't exceptional, he wasn't taking a slower car and beating people, he was a road block holding people up due to great straight line speed in a few races and as such finished well. Some solid qualifying but some poor races as well, a 9/10 is laughable.
 
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Not sure if anyone will care... FA1 (using the old A1GP cars as far as i know) will be testing over the next 2 days.

Not sure it'll ever be the most successful series ever but you never know might manage to carve out a little niche for itself, some interesting tracks... Going to keep half an eye on it :)
 
smr said:
With all due respect to you I'm sure Mclaren have all the necessary data on Kevin from his work on track, ...
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Like they did on Perez, you mean?
And then fired him after 1 year?

When you are a front running team, you hire established drivers who can win WDC.

They lose Hamilton and they hire Perez. Then they compound this error by hiring a complete rookie.

Now, unless they believe that Magnusson will win the title in his first year, they have already conceded 2014.
 
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..nobody is dense enough to genuinely think Maldonado is more deserving of a front running seat than Hulk, ...
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sunama said:
Well, if he gets the seat at Lotus, then clearly Lotus, who know a lot more about F1 (and their financial accounts) than you or I, will have thought so.

It would be a brave team who would turn down Maldo's cash, especially when you consider that Renault/Lotus/Genii cant even afford to pay their lead driver.
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There you go dude. ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25158108
 
drunkenmaster said:
Rosberg/Hamilton getting the same score when one of those had a lot more bad luck. Rosberg was gifted a win when Hamilton had it ripped away from him, and he still beat him, he was learning a new car, and wasn't gifted a win and still beat him. Scoring them the same is utterly insane.
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I've never bought the theory of "learning a new car".
If you are good. You are good. A top driver like Hamilton, Senna, Alonso, Vettel should be quick from the get-go.
Many drivers have won a WDC in their very first year with the team.

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He scored more than double the points of his team-mate.
Name me another driver from a leading team, who did this?
Answer: nobody.
The only person you can truly compare a driver to, is his team-mate and of all leading teams, Alonso compared the best.

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lol at Hulkenberg ... a 9/10 is laughable.
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I'm in two minds on Hulk.
He has outscored his team-mate heavily.
But as you stated, there werent any stand-out performances that made me think, "wow".

I remember last year when Perez made his tyres last longer than anybody else, I thought, "wow". When Vettel won 9 in a row, I thought, "wow". Hulk is liked by a lot of people, though. Many people rate him and are disappointed to see him go. Hulk did get pole in Brazil a year or 2 ago - that had the "wow" factor.
 
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