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Just out of interest does this fixed ratios malarky actually save that much per team/ year? The only reason I can see why the FIA put it in the rules is for reducing costs.
 
Hmm, looks like that's about as cheap as you can get.

This is why I bailed on going to see testing last year. With it being quite short notice, its not as cheap as you might think.

Come to the Spanish GP instead :). We can have an OcUK Mini Meet!

The missus may be heavily pregnant then so I'm not sure on that one yet. Would be good though!
 
Alan McNish has just announced his retirement from motorsport. Went out whilst still at the top of his game, well done, good racer. Forgive me if this is old news posted elsewhere.
 
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But... :confused::confused::confused:

But... Porsche. But, But.... Webber. But.... awwww

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Such a shame we won't see him taking on Davidson and Webber next year at Le Mans. But He has been part of something pretty special at Audi over the last few years, and has some great achievements to his name.
 
Ferrari has confirmed that Antonio Spagnolo will be Kimi Raikkonen's race engineer during the 2014 Formula 1 season
 
Alan McNish has just announced his retirement from motorsport. Went out whilst still at the top of his game, well done, good racer. Forgive me if this is old news posted elsewhere.
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Didn't see that one coming!

Someone's going to have a big pair of shoes to fill.
 
Hmm, looks like that's about as cheap as you can get.

This is why I bailed on going to see testing last year. With it being quite short notice, its not as cheap as you might think.

Come to the Spanish GP instead :). We can have an OcUK Mini Meet!

We'll be there!
 
I think its aimed more at removing the gearbox as a performance differenciator. Within a few years the gearboxes will effectively be off the shelf parts any team can use. The contents are fixed, and the mounting points are standardised.

As for cost savings, they will still have to buy them, so only those teams who heavily invested in gearbox development (Williams' super low box, Red Bull (I think) with the carbon housing, etc) will see a saving. There was already quite a bit of customer gearbox action going on across the grid anyway.
 
I think its aimed more at removing the gearbox as a performance differenciator.

And God forbid that we should have one of the mechanical parts of the car affect performance....

Is it not about time that they just came out and admitted that they want F1 to be a spec-racing series? It would save those of us who like to see technical innovation a hell of a lot of time and angst.
 
Is it not about time that they just came out and admitted that they want F1 to be a spec-racing series?

They did. 2009/10ish. When they were signing up teams under the promise of a budget cap, they were also accepting tenders for companies to become the single engine supplier. So long as your company name was Cosworth, you were in with a shout :p.

But the teams blocked that plan.

Customer chassis were also planned. And again blocked.

But its not a spec series, its just ensuring parity between 'works' teams and 'customer' teams. I'm sure you can remember the days when some rich excentric fancied going racing so bought a car from another team, or built one with a chassis and engine they bought from different people, and went racing.

Would F1 really be that bad if there were 4 engines and 5 or 6 gearboxes, 6 or 7 chassis, and you built your car by choosing the best bits and bolting them together?
 
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I think its aimed more at removing the gearbox as a performance differenciator. Within a few years the gearboxes will effectively be off the shelf parts any team can use. The contents are fixed, and the mounting points are standardised.

As for cost savings, they will still have to buy them, so only those teams who heavily invested in gearbox development (Williams' super low box, Red Bull (I think) with the carbon housing, etc) will see a saving. There was already quite a bit of customer gearbox action going on across the grid anyway.

Why dont the FIA just say - **** it, lets give all teams one standard engine and save all the bother........:D

Would F1 really be that bad if there were 4 engines and 5 or 6 gearboxes, 6 or 7 chassis, and you built your car by choosing the best bits and bolting them together?


It isnt close to being that good though

Soon to be four (major) engines, gearboxes are effectively taken out of the equation, how many chassis - most middle /low grid teams buy previous seasons chasis too dont they?
 
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Why dont the FIA just say - **** it, lets give all teams one standard engine and save all the bother........:D

See my post above. They did.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72324

It's why they chose the teams they did to join in 2010. The only applicants that were given serious consideration were those who agreed to run Cosworth engines. A political play that backfired on the FIA.

But freezing parts is not the same as a spec series.
 
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Not an original idea, but these are brilliantly done, and high res too.

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...gearboxes are effectively taken out of the equation

Ratios are fixed and the mounting points standardised, but its not a spec part. Teams are free to build their own gearboxes, and a lot will. Only a few teams currently buy gearboxes off someone else (Caterham have Red Bulls, and I think FI use McLarens?)

how many chassis - most middle /low grid teams buy previous seasons chasis too dont they?

Nope. Customer chassis are not allowed, and the regulations have not been stable enough to allow this to happen between seasons for a while. I think the last time this happened was Super Aguri running the previous years Honda?

Why fix the gear ratios by mandate? :confused:

They're actually down to three engines\power units: Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault.

Plus Honda from 2015.
 
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