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I fancy watching some classic Group C/WSP next year - XJR14s, C11s, that sort of thing. Anyone got any ideas? Tickets for Spa Classic look reasonable.
 
Wow, solar panels. That's going to rescue the Honda PU. :p

I'm completely bemused by the new tyre rules for 2016. I've read two different summaries now and I'm still not sure if they're contradicting each other or if the rules are just nuts. Either way, more complexity is not what F1 needs right now.
 
I'm completely bemused by the new tyre rules for 2016. I've read two different summaries now and I'm still not sure if they're contradicting each other or if the rules are just nuts. Either way, more complexity is not what F1 needs right now.

The FIA keep saying that F1 is too complicated for fans to follow, and then introduce a set of tyre rules that not even they understand!

But it will be irrelevant anyway, because as with all things in F1 the teams will all analyse the same thing and come to the same decision and use the same strategy anyway.
 
The FIA keep saying that F1 is too complicated for fans to follow, and then introduce a set of tyre rules that not even they understand!

But it will be irrelevant anyway, because as with all things in F1 the teams will all analyse the same thing and come to the same decision and use the same strategy anyway.

Some cars use their tyres differently than others. If there's a late safety car then you might see some people moving onto the purple tyre for gits and shiggles.
 
But it will be irrelevant anyway, because as with all things in F1 the teams will all analyse the same thing and come to the same decision and use the same strategy anyway.

Apart from Williams, of course. They'll get it completely wrong and Smedley will blame it on..the weather, or something. Definitely not the team's fault.
 
Ok, so having read this its quite complicated but not likely to be that diverse.

"The tyre supplier will now provide three dry-weather compounds instead of two.

"Of the 13 sets of dry tyres available to each driver, the tyre supplier will choose two for the race (only one of which must be used in the race), and one set (the softest available) that may only be used in Q3.

"Each driver may then choose their remaining 10 sets from the three available compounds.

"Unless intermediate or wet-weather tyres have been used, a driver must use at least two different specifications of dry-weather tyres - at least one of these must be the one chosen by the tyre supplier."

So, my understanding is this.

There are 3 compounds at each race. Ignoring the specific build up, lets just call these Soft, Medium and Hard. Each driver gets 13 sets for a weekend.

2 sets are chosen by Pirelli, 1 set is mandated to be the Softs, and then 10 sets they can pick and mix. So, theres a few combinations that define a minimum of each compound.

Nobody is going to want to jump into Qualifying having never used the Softs all weekend, so at a minimum we can assume the drivers will pick 1 more Soft for P3, and then the teams who will struggle to get out of Q1 or Q2 may pick another set of 2 of softs. So lets say at least 3 sets of Softs per car on average.

Pirelli chose 2 of another compound. again, the drivers are going to want these for P1 and P2 in order to gauge race pace on them, as at least 1 set will have to be used in the race, so add aother couple for that. So 4 sets of the Pirelli compound.

So that leaves 6 'free choice' sets realistically. But the 2 compound rule still remains for the race, so at least one of these will need to be NOT the Pirelli compound. This may be the Soft, or it may be the 3rd compound not yet used. Again, the teams will want sets for P1 and P2 and at least one for the race, so a minumum of 3.

So as an absolute baseline, your looking at 3 Softs, 4 Pirelli compound, and 3 Not Pirelli compound. Thats 10 sets which are pretty confirmed.

So using this structure, split into 4 categories in order of (Qualifying)(Pirelli)(Not Pirelli)(Driver) choices, this is how I see it possibly panning out:

A track that favors a Hard compound:
(SSS)(HHHH)(MMM)(HHH)

A track that favours a Soft (Monaco):
(SSS)(MMMM)(SSS)(SSS)

Something in the middle:
(SSS)(HHHH)(MMM)(???)

So I still don't think there will be much mix up and the stupid 2 tyre compound rule has stayed, and I assume the Q2 tyre to race start tyre has too? And the choice needs to be made before the race weekend starts so there will at least be the potential for a team to get it very wrong and be stuffed all weekend. Yeay, races decided by a random tyre allocation! Just what F1 needs!
 
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Looks like the Red Bull X2010 painted black...

I don't care what it looks like but I remember in an interview once that LH said that he would love if there was a way that cars could race closer together without affecting aero and if there was ever a solution then this is it imo.

- Closed Cockpit
- Better front Aero
- Closed off Wheels reducing deg from following cars closely

All they need to do then is get rid of DRS, I never liked it anyway. Why should a driver who worked hard to open a gap even if it is a second be penalized. I don't know how those covers will help disperse water in rainy conditions though.
 
Closed cockpits and more front aero will only increase the reliance on needing clean air to go fast. F1 needs less on body aero and more under car (ground effect) aero.

DRS isn't about negating a drivers advantage, its about offsetting the disadvantage of running close behind another car. Effectively its about stopping a faster driver being stuck behind a slower one. And it acheives that.

If you solve the aero problem so that cars can follow close and there is a positive advantage to being in a slip stream then you can remove DRS. The way to make that happen is to make the cars less slippery in a straight line, which is basically the opposite of the MP4 X. Designs like that will be faster on their own, but unlikely to promote close racing.
 
I don't care what it looks like but I remember in an interview once that LH said that he would love if there was a way that cars could race closer together without affecting aero and if there was ever a solution then this is it imo.

- Closed Cockpit
- Better front Aero
- Closed off Wheels reducing deg from following cars closely


Following cars doesn't directly degrade the tyres, it's the reduced downforce meaning the tyres slide more, so putting covers over the wheels isn't going to change much in that regard.

The air is fairly effectively shaped around the wheels anyway, considering they're essentially a big square block from the front. That's what the impossibly intricate front-wing end-plates are for. :)
 
The Infiniti deal was terminated along with the Renault engine deal, given it was a Renault backed title sponsorship agreement.

And if you want to get picky, the chassis will be the 'Red Bull - TAG Heuer RB12' (<chassis manufacturer> - <engine manufacturer>) and the team name is 'Red Bull Racing', unless the agreement also gets TAG in as title sponsor.
 
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