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Again, why teams not engines?

Pull together stats for the number if winning engines and the total number of competing engines each year.

Put some converted today's average prices for the engines each year in their too.
 
Bit of a crazy btcc meeting today, driving standards a bit dubious at times. Crash at the start of the third race was very dodgy, lucky the cameraman wasn't badly injured. For those that haven't seen it, a car rolled over the barrier and demolished the camera perch with the cameraman still stood on it.
 
I think the universally agreed best of the V8 engines won only 2 of the 8 V8 WDCs.

The V8s were considered so unballanced certain manufacturers were given special permission to upgrade.

There are far bigger factors that define the competitiveness of the F1 field than the engines.

If you gave everyone in F1 the same engine now, do you think we would see a massive flattening of the competitive hierarchy (apart from Honda)? The best and worst team on the grid currently have the same engine.
 
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Skeeter said:
I think the universally agreed best of the V8 engines won only 2 of the 8 V8 WDCs.

so that would
renault and ferrari
not including Mercedes???

The V8s were considered so unbalanced certain manufacturers were given special permission to upgrade.

they could have removed that by letting all teams upgrade or none

There are far bigger factors that define the competitiveness of the F1 field than the engines.

then why were more teams winning races with V8 than V6's???

If you gave everyone in F1 the same engine now, do you think we would see a massive flattening of the competitive hierarchy (apart from Honda)? The best and worst team on the grid currently have the same engine.
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not drastically but more competition in general
 
The V6 era has been skewed by the Mercedes dominance.

A dominance clearly not defined by the engine as no other Mercedes team has stuck with them, and there's Mercedes engines at the top and bottom of the grid.

Giving everyone the same engine won't suddenly make F1 equal. Giving them all 10 year old V8s certainly won't, and won't be cheaper, and will be slower, and will cause a number of manufacturers to leave.
 
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The V6 era has been skewed by the Mercedes dominance.

A dominance clearly not defined by the engine as no other Mercedes team has stuck with them, and there's Mercedes engines at the top and bottom of the grid.
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if they had stuck with V8's do you think Mercedes would dominate like they are now if "dominance clearly not defined by the engine" ???
 
No, because Mercedes would have quit.

The order has been shaken up by the engines, but they aren't the only reason Mercedes are winning. They were a race winning car in 2013 remember, and easily have the biggest budget by far.
 
Because they said they would along with Renault. They had no interest in continuing with an NA V8s.

The commitment to V6s happened a while before 2013. It was even delayed a year from when they first planned to have them, wasn't it?
 
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