Motorsport Off Topic Thread

englishpremier said:
Really, to me it looks the old Hockenheimring. I remember some fun races their but perhaps I have the rose-tinted specs on.

I would like to see more tracks with higher banking and even off-camber banking on some corners just for ***** and giggles. Also add in that highly abrasive diamond cut surface they use at Indy.
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So we can have 5 finishers again? No thanks.
 
Monaco 1996 actually had half the finishers (3 out of 21 starters) that the USGP in 2005 had (6 finished out of 6 starters).

Interlagos, Barcelona, Monaco 1996, Nurburgring 1999, Brazil 2003 and races like that are great fun.

The Indianapolis race in 2005 was not, though the pre-race politics almost made up for that.
 
this_is_gav said:
Monaco 1996 actually had half the finishers (3 out of 21 starters) that the USGP in 2005 had (6 finished out of 6 starters).

Interlagos, Barcelona, Monaco 1996, Nurburgring 1999, Brazil 2003 and races like that are great fun.

The Indianapolis race in 2005 was not, though the pre-race politics almost made up for that.
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It’s different having a wet race where 90% of the field crash or break down than a race where 90% of the field can’t run because tyres can’t withstand the cornering forces of the banked corners and diamond cut asphalt though.

Pirelli may make some great tyres for road cars and super cars but their brief in F1 means I wouldn’t trust them to be able to use any of their current compounds on such a demanding track.

To reiterate, I don’t mind a race where people fall off the road through lack of skill or adhesion but I’d rather not go to a circuit knowing the physics would make it a circus circa Indianapolis 2005.
 
EVH said:
To reiterate, I don’t mind a race where people fall off the road through lack of skill or adhesion but I’d rather not go to a circuit knowing the physics would make it a circus circa Indianapolis 2005.
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Exceedingly unlikely nowadays with a single tyre supplier. It was the Bridgestone vs Michelin battle that partially caused USA 2005 to descend into a farce.

'87 Germany I think it was there was were issues found on the Friday practise running with punctures and only Goodyear supplying tyres. They flew tyres of a different construction and harder compounds out for the Saturday.
 
Stripping assets for profit isn't the current trend of investment firms but F1 isn't a profit oriented business so I'd love to know what they have planned. Maybe the Williams family are ready to move on and will benefit from an investment firm finding ways to add "value".
 
Dup said:
Stripping assets for profit isn't the current trend of investment firms but F1 isn't a profit oriented business so I'd love to know what they have planned. Maybe the Williams family are ready to move on and will benefit from an investment firm finding ways to add "value".
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There is an old joke in the games industry:

"What's the best way to make a small fortune making games?"
"Start with a big fortune"

It seems like it applies just as well to Formula 1.
 
Longbow added value to Sauber by getting Alfa on board then sold the team to another finance company. Williams would have had interest from F2 drivers' parents in a similar situation to Stroll but probably didn't like the price offered. An investment firm would be able to handle the re-sale better (or asset strip it, load it up with debt and sell it on for £1 like Genii did with Lotus).
 
Steeps said:
Longbow added value to Sauber by getting Alfa on board then sold the team to another finance company. Williams would have had interest from F2 drivers' parents in a similar situation to Stroll but probably didn't like the price offered. An investment firm would be able to handle the re-sale better (or asset strip it, load it up with debt and sell it on for £1 like Genii did with Lotus).
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Aren’t Williams already saddled with debt?
 
Yes. They've got multiple mortgages on their factory and its land, and they've sold most of the Heritage collection already. They have nothing left to sell. At least nothing that they don't still need to actually go racing.
 
Seems a very odd purchase although from their current portfolio it appears they have some Engineering pedigree; but with Williams Advanced Tech already being sold off just the F1 team seems a bit odd
 
chrismscotland said:
Seems a very odd purchase although from their current portfolio it appears they have some Engineering pedigree; but with Williams Advanced Tech already being sold off just the F1 team seems a bit odd
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Yes it's an odd one but maybe they'll sponsor it themselves as a means for advertising, Dorilton Capital Williams F1 Team as plastered on the car, or just do what Steeps suggested.

*shrug*.
 
MissChief said:
How do you become a millionaire in F1? By being a Billionaire before you get involved.
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The problem is that it was little toy billionaires in F1 (well most weren't even billionaires). If you take someone like Carlos Slim, Amancio Ortega, etc... just their sheer pull and contacts would attract additional sponsors and investment. Plus their fortunes are so large they pretty much bank roll a team until they died, and afterwards.
 
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