Motorsport Off Topic Thread

It should be simple. Breach the budget cap, get excluded from the championships.
Sadly, it won't be. They'll come up with a non punishment (see Ferrari's dodgy PU)

Sky have shown the potential punishments:

Minor Overspend of less than 5%

Deduction of drivers and constructors championship points
Suspension from one or more stages of a competition
Limitations on ability to conduct aerodynamic or other testing
Reduction of the cost cap.

Major overspend of more than 5%

Deduction of drivers and constructors championship points
Suspension from one or more stages of a competition
Suspension from an entire competition
Exclusion from the championship
Reduction of the cost cap.
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Also, there's no possible appeal against any penalties applied.

[edit] Oh, just realised, this is for the 2021 season.... :eek:

So, a deduction of points from drivers and constructors could be interesting.
 
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Don’t even know where to begin with this.

Imagine if this is true, it just can’t be a slap on the wrist.

However, I don’t think you can mess with the results from last season. Leave them be. This years results could be fair game though!
 
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What is the point on having the rule if the amounts spent are not announced until the following year? Do redbull just get a pass for last years overspend?
 
a pretty simple solution would be is every £ over the cost cap equates to a £ of prize money lost.

Any prize money deducted is distributed equally to teams who remained within the cost cap and that money isn’t taken into account for cost cap purposes, E.g. they can spend it on making their car better.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
a pretty simple solution would be is every £ over the cost cap equates to a £ of prize money lost.
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But you get more money for where you place so this isn't enough. Kind of ridiculous they didn't specify the punishments though, surely they should have agreed something like "<5% over, fine equal to the overspend paid from the next year's budget; 5-10% over, that + points deduction; >10% over, DSQ from WDC and WCC".
 
What would be the point of a fine or loss of prize money ? The rich teams would just see it as the cost of winning.

If any teams been guilty of deliberately overspending and hiding it requiring months of forensic accounting to uncover, I know who my monies on.
 
They need something substantial.
Docked points from the next season?

1 point per million?

Taken of next years budget cap?
But what if they just break it again?

It needs to be something money can't buy you out of
 
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413x said:
I take it this is last season. Changing results that late would be a disaster for the sport
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Not as big a disaster for the sport as not changing the result if it turns out that RB cheated on a massive scale (which, btw, I don't think it will turn out they have). If, for example, you found out that the 100m champion had been juicing, you'd ban them, remove their results and re-assign the medals. This is the same kind of thing.
 
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Not as big a disaster for the sport as not changing the result if it turns out that RB cheated on a massive scale (which, btw, I don't think it will turn out they have). If, for example, you found out that the 100m champion had been juicing, you'd ban them, remove their results and re-assign the medals. This is the same kind of thing.
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Would they just quit the sport? It would be the mother of all Upsets. I can't see them being striped of 2021 myself
 
As Red Bull were keen on reminding us last year, if a car is a fraction out of specification then it's a rule break and there's a penalty. Any team that has spent even the tiniest amount over the budget has broken the rules and there should be a penalty.

If a driver won a race and it was discovered that his car was 5% outside specifications, he'd be disqualified.
 
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