Motorsport Off Topic Thread

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Huge news.

FIA has banned radio chat about car and driver performance with immediate effect.

In order to ensure that the requirements of Article 20.1 of the F1 Sporting Regulations is respected at all times we intend to rigorously enfoce this regulation with immediate effect. Therefore no radio conversation from pit to driver may include any information that is related to the performance of the car or driver.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/09/11/fia-bans-radio-chat-about-car-and-driver-performance/

 

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Can someone put in laymans terms what this means?

What sort of messages could we hear previously that we can't now?

Telling the driver to brake later at a certain corner, or that his tyre/brakes are too hot/cold. Basically anything a driver is expected to already know to get a faster lap time.

Time splits and pit stop strategies will of course still be discussed. I'm assuming things like fuel map settings to save fuel will still be allowed.

 

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Telling the driver to brake later at a certain corner, or that his tyre/brakes are too hot/cold. Basically anything a driver is expected to already know to get a faster lap time.

Time splits and pit stop strategies will of course still be discussed. I'm assuming things like fuel map settings to save fuel will still be allowed.

Seems I guessed wrong. Charlie Whiting has just said this will be disallowed as drivers have all this information available to them on their steering wheel. So they can't say use this engine map at this time etc...

As far as penalties go, it's down to Steward's discretion but is likely to be a Sporting penalty rather than fine.

 

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So with this retarded ban, will we not just be seeing a lot more of the relevant messages going onto the pit boards/steering wheels?

Messages via anything are not allowed regarding driver performance.

So pit boards are not allowed, coded messages are banned too. They can't inform drivers of rival sector times and where they are faster etc...


Personally I'm in favour of giving all this a go, I want to see drivers make their own decisions and see who has the extra mental capacity and act accordingly without being told what to do. Obviously the FIA need to make it absolutely clear as to what is and isn't allowed, as long as that is sorted then its got my approval.

 

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Just as I say that.. pretty comprehensive list of what is and isn't allowed has now been posted.

Information ban regarding tyres and brakes will be postponed till Suzuka.

What do we think of the list below?:
http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/09/15/f1s-radio-ban-full-details-of-what-is-and-isnt-allowed/

 

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This Si also rubbish, just being told, doesn't mean the driver can do it. Just like NICO was told and could not match LH even remotely on the Chicano.

Some people seem to think giving info is actually driving the car for them, it's not and receiving the info doesn't mean they can act on it.

I don't disagree with this, as we all know that all drivers are not equal.


Perhaps I could have worded it better, but I like to see drivers pick up and recognise how to go quicker themselves. I'd rather see drivers either make instinctive or calculated decisions with no input from the team, having teams provide all this dilutes a driver's repertoire. Or at least the image of it.

This does of course mean there will be greater emphasis on analysis between sessions, overlaying team mate data etc...

You all may be absolutely correct and that this is all load of a tosh, but I'd like to see how it goes for a couple races regardless.

 

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I'm almost sure that half them rules would come under the health and safety law.

I hope the drivers threaten to strike or do something.

Yeah, pretty much.

Although I am concerned about race starts, I think the parade laps should remain unchanged. As the current new ruling could mean everyone having a start like Lewis at Monza (at best), or at worst stalling.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/09/15/teams-worried-that-radio-ban-will-make-starts-difficult/

 

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Yup, some more concerns collected by JA:

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/...-f1-teams-cite-cost-and-reliability-concerns/

Most people on the paddock seem to welcome the idea of not having to 'coach' a driver, but there are definitely reservations about the current ruling which need addressing.

 

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Compromise on team radio restriction: a new directive will be issued allowing tech management msgs. All details in Friday practice on #skyf1

Looks like the FIA have been made to see some sense.

 

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Lewis' pre-race thoughts on communication ban.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/09/18/lewis-hamilton-on-radio-ban-its-like-going-back-to-karting-days/

 

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Really good piece here by JA on Mercedes' success:

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/...s-brawn-played-in-their-championship-success/

 

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Marussia may be saved from administration at the 11th hour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...ue-deal-claim-brothers-plotting-takeover.html

 

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Looks like CVC might be releasing some money in order to keep teams in the sport.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/1...d-163100-million-payment-according-to-reports

Really hope the big teams, Bernie and CVC come with up with something sustainable and fair soon.

 

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Found this fascinating, breakdown of how the money in F1 is shared.

Figures aren't exact of course, but will be close.
Source here.

 

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Mercedes are getting historical payments based on engine supply I imagine.

 

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Edited the original post now as the Journo has made a few adjustments to it since it was first uploaded.

 

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McLaren ‏@McLarenF1 8m8 minutes ago

Getting set for Silverstone tomorrow for a filming day. We'll be parading the interim Honda-engined MP4-29H/1X1 & 2 classic McLaren-Hondas.

Looking forward to the Abu Dhabi test. Likely won't be able to gleam much from it but will still has me excited.

 

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Bernie truly shows how ignorant he can be in this interview. Well worth reading.

http://www.campaignasia.com/Article...e-ecclestone-on-his-billion-dollar-brand.aspx

"I'm not interested in tweeting, Facebook and whatever this nonsense is," said Ecclestone in the interview, where he talks about F1's financial problems and the future direction of the sport.

"I tried to find out but in any case I'm too old-fashioned. I couldn't see any value in it. And, I don't know what the so-called 'young generation' of today really wants. What is it?"

Asked if he believed there was no value in attracting a young audience, Ecclestone said: "If you have a brand that you want to put in front of a few hundred million people, I can do that easily for you on television.

"Now, you're telling me I need to find a channel to get this 15-year-old to watch Formula 1 because somebody wants to put out a new brand in front of them? They are not going to be interested in the slightest bit.

"Young kids will see the Rolex brand, but are they going to go and buy one? They can't afford it. Or our other sponsor, UBS — these kids don't care about banking. They haven't got enough money to put in the bloody banks anyway.

"That's what I think. I don't know why people want to get to the so-called 'young generation'. Why do they want to do that? Is it to sell them something? Most of these kids haven't got any money.

"I'd rather get to the 70-year-old guy who's got plenty of cash. So, there's no point trying to reach these kids because they won't buy any of the products here and if marketers are aiming at this audience, then maybe they should advertise with Disney."

 

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That scrote who drove onto Brands in his gf's Polo has been jailed for 8 months.