Motorsport Off Topic Thread

Skeeter said:
I would assume this is the Caterham version of the jointly developed road car project they are working on with Renault, with Renaults version being Alpine branded.

Unless there is a 3rd Renault/Caterham project going on that we don't know about?
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http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/tonys/Article/

AIRASIA supremo Tan Sri Tony Fernandes and his partner Datuk Kamarudin Meranun have surprised the world by entering into a joint venture (JV) with French carmaker Renault SA, via the Caterham Group.


Both companies have agreed to join forces to design, develop and build affordable sports cars, which will be built at the Alpine plant in Dieppe, Normandy, France.
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just thinking out loud here.. if Mercedes win the championship this year and if vettel leaves red bull will he want to move to Mercedes or will Ferrari still be more attractive? I'm sure merc could offer an insane sum of money but ferrari could offer potentially more championships. Also being german in a german branded team.
 
Skeeter said:
I don't think anyone genuinely thinks Vettel is a better driver than Alonso and Hamilton. He has epic 1 lap pace, but in a free open market Vettel is always going to be any team managers 3rd choice.
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Didn't you state that you believed Vettel was the best?
A while back, I remember asking you about this and you stated that Vettel was the best, in your opinion.

And with regards to nobody believing Vettel is better than Alonso/Hamilton - some do believe this. And with good reason...

Lets argue Vettel's case:
1. Vettel holds all sorts of records - age related, eg: youngest race winner in F1, youngest WDC in F1, youngest 2-time WDC, youngest 3 time WDC, and some other records.
2. He is ahead of MSc (in terms of age) and is essentially beating MSc's records, in the most competitive era of F1 we have witnessed in a few decades.
3. When the team give him the best car - 90% of the time, he wins. To put this in contrast, last year McLaren had the best car in a few races and their drivers couldn't boast that sort of statistic (for varying reasons).
4. At age 25, he has won 3 WDCs and is already considered a "great", ranked 8 of all time. Should he win a 4th, this year, he will be ranked alongside Prost, with only Fangio and MSc ahead of him, competing in an era where the quality of driver is extremely high.
5. As we saw 2 years ago, he is able to adapt to whatever car he is given. When they brought in off-throttle blowing in 2011, he had to change his driving style...something which Webber (not a bad driver) was unable to do.
6. Assuming that he continues to improve, as one would expect, there is no reason to believe that in 2 years time, he wont be acknowledged as the best driver currently in F1 and possibly of all-time.

IMO, he is a more complete driver than Hamilton.
Vettel knows how to win.
Hamilton knows how to drive fast.

I'll leave someone else to break down my argument. :p
 
smr said:
Good, hopefully Jenson reads this which will only make him more determined to beat Lewis.
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Personally, I think whoever has the faster car, is the one who will score more points in the WDC. Over the last 3 years, Button and Hamilton have been very even on points (cumulative over 3 seasons). Very little to choose between them.
 
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