Motorsport Off Topic Thread

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Monaco GP will have 2 mandatory pit stops and all 3 compounds will have to be used during the race (unless it rains).

A good change.

Is this true? Any race that needs this sort of meddling should be cast in to the fire. Left to the history books, when cars were good.

 

[GravyMonster]

It's being considered, nothing concrete as of yet.

But yeah, it's a farcical bandaid solution which doesn't solve the actual problem.

 

[t2na]

Is this true? Any race that needs this sort of meddling should be cast in to the fire. Left to the history books, when cars were good.

Although saying that, the Qatar GP in 2023 was a great race because of mandating pit stops/tyre types.

 

[Mesai]

Although saying that, the Qatar GP in 2023 was a great race because of mandating pit stops/tyre types.

I don't mind some meddling; the pitstops can help change the running order and add some harder racing given new tyres, being closer, etc. but with Monaco, once they're out, it's back to parade laps.

 

[petridish]

Should give Sauber the push to fix any wheel nut issues (not that they need it).

I actually like the idea of having to run a much smaller "Monaco car". Total fantasy as it's not practical but seeing a bit of actual racing there would be great. I'm sure the drivers would have more fun too.

 

[imtoooldforthis]

Im bored of the “cars are too big for Monaco” narrative, Monaco still played out the same back in the days when the cars were smaller.

It’s a parade for f1 cars in a very cool setting, always has been, always will be.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

It's much worse than it used to be. On race day, the "grandma out for a Sunday drive" pace, is embarrassing to see.
The cars are too big for many tracks, Monaco is just extracting the urine. I'd argue the setting is far less cool than it used to be too. Sterilized, stale.

 

[ezekial]

While I do think it is usually pretty boring, I still like to watch it for some reason.

 

[AlphariusOmegan]

personally I do like the Monaco race, the whole premise of making mandatory stops is just trying to hide the issues.
imo
1. make the cars smaller again
2. give us nice meaty V10 sounding engines
3. bring back the Q2 fastest tyre run is your starting tyre
4. bring back gravel traps not the large run off areas where mistakes are not punished
5. the white line track limit is the track limit all around the track not just some corners, the drivers are skilled enough (maybe not stroll) to stay within this limit by mm's

the smaller cars would i think mean better racing on street tracks as they can then actually go side by side more often

 

[ezekial]

Hahaha gotta throw some shade at stroll

 

[imtoooldforthis]

It's much worse than it used to be. On race day, the "grandma out for a Sunday drive" pace, is embarrassing to see.
The cars are too big for many tracks, Monaco is just extracting the urine. I'd argue the setting is far less cool than it used to be too. Sterilized, stale.

It’s really not much worse, people just have rose tinted glasses although I’m not sure how that’s possible given Monaco has never really delievered, with the single most famous Monaco moment of all time being Mansell not being able to overtake a far slower Senna for the entire final stint despite having fresher tyres and the cars being much smaller than todays cars.

Im all for having smaller cars but in the case of Monaco it really doesn’t matter that much in terms of it improving the spectacle.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Yeah, for so many years chance of a procession was high, but... The cars would be driving far closer to ultimate pace than now. In the last few years, it is a worse race.
Not sure what the opposite of rose-tinted glasses are, but you've got them for current-era Monaco.

Unrelated to that, I realise we haven't mentioned Sargeant giving up on racing.
He really was Latifi 2.0 in every way.