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It's being considered, nothing concrete as of yet.

But yeah, it's a farcical bandaid solution which doesn't solve the actual problem.
 
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Emlyn_Dewar said:
Is this true? Any race that needs this sort of meddling should be cast in to the fire. Left to the history books, when cars were good.
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Although saying that, the Qatar GP in 2023 was a great race because of mandating pit stops/tyre types.
 
t2na said:
Although saying that, the Qatar GP in 2023 was a great race because of mandating pit stops/tyre types.
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I don't mind some meddling; the pitstops can help change the running order and add some harder racing given new tyres, being closer, etc. but with Monaco, once they're out, it's back to parade laps.
 
Should give Sauber the push to fix any wheel nut issues (not that they need it).

I actually like the idea of having to run a much smaller "Monaco car". Total fantasy as it's not practical but seeing a bit of actual racing there would be great. I'm sure the drivers would have more fun too.
 
It's much worse than it used to be. On race day, the "grandma out for a Sunday drive" pace, is embarrassing to see.
The cars are too big for many tracks, Monaco is just extracting the urine. I'd argue the setting is far less cool than it used to be too. Sterilized, stale.
 
personally I do like the Monaco race, the whole premise of making mandatory stops is just trying to hide the issues.
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1. make the cars smaller again
2. give us nice meaty V10 sounding engines
3. bring back the Q2 fastest tyre run is your starting tyre
4. bring back gravel traps not the large run off areas where mistakes are not punished
5. the white line track limit is the track limit all around the track not just some corners, the drivers are skilled enough (maybe not stroll) to stay within this limit by mm's

the smaller cars would i think mean better racing on street tracks as they can then actually go side by side more often
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
It's much worse than it used to be. On race day, the "grandma out for a Sunday drive" pace, is embarrassing to see.
The cars are too big for many tracks, Monaco is just extracting the urine. I'd argue the setting is far less cool than it used to be too. Sterilized, stale.
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It’s really not much worse, people just have rose tinted glasses although I’m not sure how that’s possible given Monaco has never really delievered, with the single most famous Monaco moment of all time being Mansell not being able to overtake a far slower Senna for the entire final stint despite having fresher tyres and the cars being much smaller than todays cars.

Im all for having smaller cars but in the case of Monaco it really doesn’t matter that much in terms of it improving the spectacle.
 
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Yeah, for so many years chance of a procession was high, but... The cars would be driving far closer to ultimate pace than now. In the last few years, it is a worse race.
Not sure what the opposite of rose-tinted glasses are, but you've got them for current-era Monaco. :D

Unrelated to that, I realise we haven't mentioned Sargeant giving up on racing.
He really was Latifi 2.0 in every way.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Unrelated to that, I realise we haven't mentioned Sargeant giving up on racing.
He really was Latifi 2.0 in every way.
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Sad news. Logan impressed in the junior formulas, was some shoddy driving from other drivers away from beating Piastri to the F3 title, and then just couldn't cut it in F1. I'd hoped he could prove his metel somewhere else.

Latifi was the old style of Playboy racer, rich enough to stick around with mediocre performances in F2 and then F1.
 
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Mr Jack said:
Sad news. Logan impressed in the junior formulas, was some shoddy driving from other drivers away from beating Piastri to the F3 title, and then just couldn't cut it in F1. I'd hoped he could prove his metel somewhere else.
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Almost wonder if Logan was just promoted too soon, I never really understood why Williams decided to rush him in for that season when he could have likely done with another year.
 
t2na said:
Almost wonder if Logan was just promoted too soon, I never really understood why Williams decided to rush him in for that season when he could have likely done with another year.
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Its the red bull way of things, see if they can swim at the deep end, if not, see you at the bottom.
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Also for Monaco,
Lap 1 and lap 3 pitstops for Monaco? Run rest of the race on hards at 60%? Cant think how they cna make it anymore of a procession.
 
t2na said:
Almost wonder if Logan was just promoted too soon, I never really understood why Williams decided to rush him in for that season when he could have likely done with another year.
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Williams, at that time, would have thrown a chimp in that car if it had a couple of million dollars to throw their way.

It seems now with a bit more competent leadership from Vowles and some good sponsorship, they've pulled themselves out of that hole.
 
t2na said:
Almost wonder if Logan was just promoted too soon, I never really understood why Williams decided to rush him in for that season when he could have likely done with another year.
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Latifi was done, they needed to put someone in. Logan was their most promising junior; and he was an American connection for Dorilton Capital. He probably would have benefited from an extra year, but I don't think it would have changed much. If he was going to grok that Williams then I think he'd have got there in his second year. I suspect the car was a horror to drive, given that all three drivers smashed it up so much last year, which didn't help him and perhaps he'd have been better at another team but Colapinto showed it was possible to leap, unprepared, into that car and extract good performance from it.
 
That sounds like he's trying to win some popularity back, knowing full well that engine manufacturers, and by proxy the teams they supply, will never allow it to happen.
 
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