Moving to Canada for 12 months - IEC Working Holiday Visa

If you are willing to work your socks off out there you can easily come back with money, the main issue it just the initial 'set up' costs (house deposit, travelling to locations, staying in hostels etc) I would say a minimum of £1000 purely to cover first months rent etc before you find a job. If you go out at the right time (early june/late september) you should be able to find a job pretty sharpish :cool:

Yeah I wouldnt doubt you for a second there. I was hoping to clear some of my overdraft around about now from my temp job with Royal mail before xmas but the agency (angard) have not hardly paid anyone, anyway thats another story.

If I were to do this would BUNACs or Smaller Earth be best to go through? Or just do this off my own back?
 
I am 33 now and will be 35 in May 2013. I really need to get out there before I lose the opportunity to do it on a WHV. Still £2000 in debt, I must pay that off asap and then I can consider it.

When do the applications for 2013 open, or is it purely a first come first serve until the 5,500 run out ??

I've done WHV in Oz and NZ so this is the last place I can realisitically do one from the UK and have some fun and hard work on another continent.

I'll re-read this thread again tonight, but if anyone has any more information on moving to Canada would be sweet !!
 
Yeah I wouldnt doubt you for a second there. I was hoping to clear some of my overdraft around about now from my temp job with Royal mail before xmas but the agency (angard) have not hardly paid anyone, anyway thats another story.

If I were to do this would BUNACs or Smaller Earth be best to go through? Or just do this off my own back?

I have no experience with smaller earth so can't really comment on them! I think seeing as you are going to be pretty desperate for a job BUNAC will be the best, they give you an orientation day on advice for getting employment and also the group flight they offer is great for meeting people in the same situation as you.

If you feel you are confident enough then by all means you can do it off your own back but its down to you really.
 
I also have a lot of debt, fortunately though I have opportunity this year to earn a lot more money with work, so just need to put the effort in. I also have my wedding photography money which I will aim to save, rather than spend this year. So will hopefully be ok.

I'm more worried about my girlfriend, she has debts, and works as cabin crew for BA, unfortunately the salary isn't great.

I am 33 now and will be 35 in May 2013. I really need to get out there before I lose the opportunity to do it on a WHV. Still £2000 in debt, I must pay that off asap and then I can consider it.

When do the applications for 2013 open, or is it purely a first come first serve until the 5,500 run out ??

I've done WHV in Oz and NZ so this is the last place I can realisitically do one from the UK and have some fun and hard work on another continent.

I'll re-read this thread again tonight, but if anyone has any more information on moving to Canada would be sweet !!

Unfortunately you have to be under 30 for Canada I believe.
 
Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but finding a job shouldn't be too bad should it? Personally I am just looking for something in retail, restaurant, or bar work (I have plenty of experience in all), so would likely take a walk one day and hand my CV in to a load of places.
 
Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but finding a job shouldn't be too bad should it? Personally I am just looking for something in retail, restaurant, or bar work (I have plenty of experience in all), so would likely take a walk one day and hand my CV in to a load of places.

I had three job offers within a week, as long as you aren't fussy (which some of the people I lived with were and wondered why they didn't have a job when they turned down jobs) you will be fine. Like I said before I know my friends struggled a bit in Vancouver purely because of the size of the place and the workers are not as seasonal (compared to resort towns), I'm sure you will be fine though.
 
I had three job offers within a week, as long as you aren't fussy (which some of the people I lived with were and wondered why they didn't have a job when they turned down jobs) you will be fine. Like I said before I know my friends struggled a bit in Vancouver purely because of the size of the place and the workers are not as seasonal (compared to resort towns), I'm sure you will be fine though.

Yeah I will definitely not be fussy in the first instance. I've worked the past 5 years in a relatively stressful sales role, where no matter if you're at work or not, you're pretty much thinking about stuff. I actually look forward to the idea of working in a restaurant, or an ice cream shop, or anything that is going really! I am not at all fussed, at least in the beginning.
 
Anyone have any experience with educating adventures or peak leaders?

Thats who im thinking of doing the courses with :)

My personal opinion is that these kind of courses for most people are a rip-off and just not worth it.

Allow me to explain why....

Provided you can already Ski or Snowboard to a reasonable degree, it's not difficult to pass your level 1 Ski or Snowboard Instructor qualification, whether in this country, or say with the Canadian body (CASI/CSIA).

When you take the instructor qualification exam, you are actually getting all the coaching and training you need to complete it as part of the fee. Using Canada as an example, I was able to book a test with CASI (Canadian Association of Snowboard Instructors) in Whistler, it was about $275 a the time. That was two and a half days of training, then on the final afternoon you were tested. The majority of people pass. You now have all the qualifications you need to actually teach in whatever countries your body is represented.

With these camps, you can now see why paying £8495 to get the qualification when you can do it yourself for a tiny fraction of the cost is quite extreme!

Now some of these camps will try and get you to Level 2 qualification, which is obviously a little tougher. However rather than just training to try and get this with a camp, it makes more sense to actually teach as a Level 1 instructor somewhere, where you will become better and your employer is likely to actually fund your Level 2 for you. Again as an example, I know that Whistler Blackcomb do this with their instructors, intact if you are lucky enough to get through in the job fair for a Ski/Snowboard Instructor, they will even pay for your Level 1.


Further to this... say you pass your Level 2 on one of these instructor courses, does it guarantee you any kind of job when you finish? Nope. If your lucky and the resort has a need, they might take you on as a new instructor, however you've paid a lot for training with no promise of any job.

The next criticism has to be largely levied at Canada specifically. Say you do one of these courses in Canada and get CASI/CSIA qualified this is largely useless if you aren't ever going to be a permanent resident of Canada. It's not recognised in Europe, which is obviously closest to us Brits and where we can work. You would need BASI qualifications.

So in the end you've paid a lot of money for a qualification that you will probably never use, but which you could have done while doing a regular winter season for very little comparatively.

A lot of these companies make their money because it's an easy way for gap year students to convince their parents to part with the cash, because it looks like they are learning something.
 
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Wow, very useful Nexus. Thanks for posting.

With regards to ski instructor work with no previous experience, I assume you have to get to Whistler early for the job fairs before the ski season starts. Would this be around September/October time?

EDIT: I'll keep an eye on this - https://secure.whistlerblackcomb.com/ats/currentjobs.aspx

and this - http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/employment/jobs/index.htm

Yes you do, also keep an eye out on Pique magazine (just search on google for it) I would say a month in advance would be plenty to look for seasonal jobs.
 
Great post Nexus, completely changed my view on things!

The 7 grand that course would have cost me might go into snowboarding holidays now, then just try and bang out level 1 and 2 as soon as I get there :)

You said something about the Job fair, and they might take you on and pay for Level 1 and 2, when does this take place and where?
 
Great post Nexus, completely changed my view on things!

The 7 grand that course would have cost me might go into snowboarding holidays now, then just try and bang out level 1 and 2 as soon as I get there :)

You said something about the Job fair, and they might take you on and pay for Level 1 and 2, when does this take place and where?

They appear to have an annual one in November each year, I assume in Whistler.

There's some info here, but it seems a bit dated - http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/employment/jobs/index.htm
 
You said something about the Job fair, and they might take you on and pay for Level 1 and 2, when does this take place and where?

Whistler Blackcomb, the resort itself, has their job fair at the end of Autumn. It's been a good few years since I did it, but back then, you applied for a position online, you then attended two interviews during the fair. The first is known as a company fit interview, where a current member of staff (could be from any department) will have a quick chat with you, ask a few questions and they then basically decide whether you should be interviewed further.

If you get invited for a second interview, it will be a group interview with staff from the department you are applying for. In my case, I applied for a Liftie job; there was probably about ten of us, sat in a semi-circle with four Lift Ops Supervisors asking us the questions. It took up an afternoon and I didn't think it was too bad. The key thing to remember is that with all the jobs they are looking for staff who are good with people, as customer service is their priority. So the best thing to do when answering the questions given to you, is to be confident and address your answer to the whole group, rather than just back at the interviewer.

As for Instructors, I wasn't aware when I was applying that you didn't need to have any instructor qualifications to apply, as otherwise, I would have done so. It's the same setup, two interviews, though from what I heard from friends, the group interview is likely to involve some silly questions like "What kind of animal would you be, and what noise do you make?" and some role playing. This is because as a new instructor you WILL be working with kids. So if you think the job is going to be leading adults off to find the best runs, or flirting with hotties learning to Snowboard, think again! So it's almost like you are baby sitting, so you can see why they are after people who are good with kids, and they are more likely to take you if you have any experience on your CV of having worked with children.

Provided you get through the interviews, they pay for your Level 1. If you fail, you don't get the job. Into the season they will pay for your Level 2 and with some experience and shadowing, you can eventually move up to teaching slightly older kids. That gives you a bit more freedom to move around, take them in the Park etc. However, just don't do what one of my housemates did when he took his kids off-piste, one got stuck in a river and had to be airlifted out.... that didn't end well!


I believe in more recent years that Whistler Blackcomb even have a job fair in London now, and I think the date for the main one is even earlier than it used to be. But then Whistler is a very well known and popular resort, so everybody wants to go there.
 
Still undecided on whether to go for the course or do it on my own :(

Here's what I think, anyone have any other suggestions:

Do snowboarding course

  • Meet people, which seems to be the key to success from what people are saing
  • Guranteed a job if I pass Level 1 exam
  • Includes housing for duration of course

Don't

  • Save quite a bit of money, but possibly not much after you consider housing, lift passes, price of courses
  • Will be on my own from the start, which I think might be a disadvantage as it will be harder to build up a contact network

Any ideas?
 
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