MP Jo Cox murdered in West Yorkshire [Thread title edited]

Danthus · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:09

A witness who heard what the attacker said has just been on the BBC.

He isn't sure exactly what he said, it was either:

"Britain first"

or

"Put Britain first"

fornowagain · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:13

robfosters said:
Anyone bringing remain or brexit or whatever into this should just be ashamed of themselves. The man was a nutter. Anyone trying to use it to score 'political points' whether it be remainers or brexiter's are gutter dogs.

My thoughts exactly.

G-MAN2004 · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:13

Everyone everywhere seems to be jumping on the bandwagon and calling him a terrorist, but is there any actual hard evidence that he shouted 'Britain First'? Call me cynical, but I don't believe a word anyone says until there is evidence. What's stopping this random bystander from lying?

Danthus · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:14

"Britain First."

"Britain first."

One capital letter makes a huge difference.

Then we have "Put Brtain first."

Pawnless Endgame · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:14

ak22 said:
Your ironing? thats nice

Woooosh...

Arazi · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:15

robfosters said:
Anyone bringing remain or brexit or whatever into this should just be ashamed of themselves. The man was a nutter. Anyone trying to use it to score 'political points' whether it be remainers or brexiter's are gutter dogs.

Exactly this.

awaybreaktoday · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:17

https://twitter.com/Jo_Cox1

Jo Cox: Brexit is no answer to real concerns on immigration

Immigration is a legitimate concern, but it’s not a good reason to leave the EU @yorkshirepost #Remain #StrongerInhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/jo-cox-brexit-is-no-answer-to-real-concerns-on-immigration-1-7956822#ixzz4BA42bFd8http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/jo-cox-brexit-is-no-answer-to-real-concerns-on-immigration-1-7956822 …

ak22 · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:18

robfosters said:
Anyone bringing remain or brexit or whatever into this should just be ashamed of themselves. The man was a nutter. Anyone trying to use it to score 'political points' whether it be remainers or brexiter's are gutter dogs.

True but it didn't stop some britexit campaigners over at Leave.EU using the Orlando shooting to score political points, even tho the shooter was american born. Politics its dirty game especially when they use hate to dive people.

robfosters · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:24

ak22 said:
True but it didn't stop some britexit campaigners over at Leave.EU using the Orlando shooting to score political points, even tho the shooter was american born. Politics its dirty game especially when they use hate to dive people.

And I say the same bout them. I'm a brexiter but one thing I despise is people using tragedies to further their own political cause. It's immoral, misguided and completely disrespectful to the people mourning their loved one. And it carries no relevance either as the people who carry out acts like this are not normal, straight thinking people. They are acting on violent impulses usually fuelled by some form of mental illness.

Qel · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:25

ak22 said:
True but it didn't stop some britexit campaigners over at Leave.EU using the Orlando shooting to score political points, even tho the shooter was american born. Politics its dirty game especially when they use hate to dive people.

Two wrongs don't make a right? People trying to profit politically from the US shooting or from today's tragedy is just totally disgusting, no 'oh but they did this' even comes into it.

hurfdurf · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:31

robfosters said:
Anyone bringing remain or brexit or whatever into this should just be ashamed of themselves. The man was a nutter. Anyone trying to use it to score 'political points' whether it be remainers or brexiter's are gutter dogs.

It doesn't take a giant leap to go from Britain First rhetoric to incenting violence, and it bares discussion if there is a link, mentally ill or not.

The Running Man · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:33

Difference being no one in the brexit camp applauding his actions or taking responsibility for him and his actions. Instead saying he should be punished for his crime.

Merlin5 · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:34

Just seen this on the news. What a terrible loss. A very attractive and intelligent MP, wife and mother, killed by some retarded loser ****.

RIP

Six6siX · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:37

Everything the news is reporting makes him sound like a completely neutral, unassuming individual. So it seems somewhat out of character.

But then, as they say, it's always the quiet ones...

Craterloads · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:38

Arazi said:
Mentally ill guy with very right wing views imo.

And we're off

[ ] It's all the immigrants fault
[ ] He's been suffering from anxiety and depression
[x] Mental illness is responsible for this
[ ] Lone nutter
[ ] False flag
[ ] Isolated case
[ ] Muslims do bad things too!

Mynight · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:42

Wow.

Well lets proscribe Britain first. Simples.

Such a waste of life

. Cant even imagine what her family is going through right now

.

ak22 · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:47

robfosters said:
And I say the same bout them. I'm a brexiter but one thing I despise is people using tragedies to further their own political cause. It's immoral, misguided and completely disrespectful to the people mourning their loved one. And it carries no relevance either as the people who carry out acts like this are not normal, straight thinking people. They are acting on violent impulses usually fuelled by some form of mental illness.

Well said i agree that's the point i was trying to make, may i ask where you get your information from on pros & cons on brit exit? I have not looked into much and lately i keep getting asked if I'm going to vote. When I look at the partys campaigning for it don't know how to trust they don't seem to show many facts.

G-MAN2004 · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:47

Mynight said:
Wow.

Well lets proscribe Britain first. Simples.

Yes, let's outlaw groups based on a witness statement that could be completely made up...

Six6siX · 16 Jun 2016 at 22:58

ak22 said:
Well said i agree that's the point i was trying to make, may i ask where you get your information from on pros & cons on brit exit? I have not looked into much and lately i keep getting asked if I'm going to vote. When I look at the partys campaigning for it don't know how to trust they don't seem to show many facts.

I wouldn't bother looking at the campaigns for either side to be honest - they're both quite rubbish.

I'd suggest maybe having a skim through the couple of threads that are in GD (but you may have to sift through some nonsense) - there are a few people on both sides making considered arguments with a lot of data and it's generally a good back and forth discussion.

It's certainly not a straightforward matter but good on you for actually bothering to looking into it properly before making a decision.

Sagalout · 16 Jun 2016 at 23:24

ak22 said:
. When I look at the partys campaigning for it don't know how to trust they don't seem to show many facts.

There are no facts, only guess work and opinions from both sides. Pick the side you think sounds most plausible.

Probably not the thread to continue the discussion though.