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FutileBreadMachine said:
Very unsatisfying finale, didn't get any answers.
How could they leave the previous cliffhanger (what happened with Tyrell) as a cliffhanger for a 2nd time? There was too much time spent on Elliot's hallucinations. I was a bit confused by the significance of the skateboard video - we already knew Elliot just jumped off the pier himself. I think they muddied the waters by showing his mother and younger self as further hallucinations besides his dad.

The reactions of the other hackers was a bit odd too, they should have been over the moon but they kept whining and being depressed. The storyline with Angela is a bit too predictable too, the old "good person being corrupted by power" thing.

I don't think the EvilCorp CEO was talking about Elliot when he said they knew who was responsible, they were probably talking about Tyrell since he seemed to know a lot of technical stuff and found that file on that one server while using his work PC. Maybe they thought he helped the hackers since he was fired.

I actually thought it was him in the FSociety disguise in the video where it had a close up of the eyes, or was that Elliot?
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I kinda like not knowing too much with this one.
 
oldestgregg said:
I'm think Evilcorp want Angela working there because of Elliot. And wwho was at the door? So many questions !
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My bet was it was the therapists ex-boyfriend. He was cheating on his wife with the therapist and multiple other women, some under age by the sounds of it and he clearly treated his dog like ****. But now it all happened because of Elliot, can't see his kid, Elliot's fault, dog stolen he now cares greatly about it because it allows him to put something else on Elliot. Was willing to lie to the therapist about dying to get her to see him to get information on him while also trying to convince himself he really loved her.

He's basically broken and blames Elliot for everything so as soon as the door went I figured it would be him with a gun looking for revenge. Otherwise frankly, the ex-boyfriend had no place in the story. It was a decently long scene to establish just how screwed up this guy is.


The rest of the episode, I don't know, somehow it has that feel of changing direction completely midseason. The fairly classic situation where to make room for a second season you have to change direction drastically midway through the first season. The original episodes maybe finishing the original story and not lending itself to another season, we see this frequently in series. They've jumped from a coherent story line to a fairly incoherent one. Okay if he's a nut job it makes some sense but it's just the style of telling the story to the viewer has changed. It do get the feeling a lot is being purposefully vague to open up new story possibilities.

It's still great to watch with a frankly amazing cast who have been unbelievably good in every episode. I think the only person in the whole thing I wasn't amazed with was Angela's boyfriend and even then I can't tell if I disliked the actor's ability to play him or he played the douche so well I hated him :p
 
I wonder if the scene with the therapists ex at the beginning was thrown in at the last minute due to the reference of the AM leaks. When exactly did that leak occur? I would have thought the filming would have been done a while back, before that happened.

All in all, just a tad messy. Its almost like GOT... just as you starting to understand... bang, they kill of that character, where as in this, just as you understand what is going on, bang, the through a plot twist.
 
drunkenmaster said:
The rest of the episode, I don't know, somehow it has that feel of changing direction completely midseason. The fairly classic situation where to make room for a second season you have to change direction drastically midway through the first season. The original episodes maybe finishing the original story and not lending itself to another season, we see this frequently in series. They've jumped from a coherent story line to a fairly incoherent one. Okay if he's a nut job it makes some sense but it's just the style of telling the story to the viewer has changed. It do get the feeling a lot is being purposefully vague to open up new story possibilities.
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Thing to remember is this was the guy who created this started out wanting to make this as a film, but then decided to do it as a TV series instead.

It's been written I believe as a 4 season thing, it's all planned and everything supposedly has a purpose so I don't think there was any deliberate change of direction is season.

its not like they planned it for one season then had to change it once they, very quickly, knew the second had been green lit.

Some good interviews out there with the cast and creator that are worth watching too.

As for the AM reference, to me it was just a last minute overdub to the scene as the camera wasn't on him to see his lips moving, they'll have just changed the dialogue there to make it even more current/relevant.

Actually scrap that thought, just read this and appears the line was in there all along and was supposed to reference Elliott hacking the guys AM account rather than the AM hack.

Spoilers here! http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wa...-power-to-telegraph-the-big-twist/single-page

Finale was decent, as I read somewhere this is more of an act 1 in a film rather than a standalone TV season. Just hate waiting now for the next one to start!

As an aside got a hankering to go watch Rubicon again now thanks to seeing Michael Cristofer a fair bit the last few episodes.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
My bet was it was the therapists ex-boyfriend. He was cheating on his wife with the therapist and multiple other women, some under age by the sounds of it and he clearly treated his dog like ****. But now it all happened because of Elliot, can't see his kid, Elliot's fault, dog stolen he now cares greatly about it because it allows him to put something else on Elliot. Was willing to lie to the therapist about dying to get her to see him to get information on him while also trying to convince himself he really loved her.

He's basically broken and blames Elliot for everything so as soon as the door went I figured it would be him with a gun looking for revenge. Otherwise frankly, the ex-boyfriend had no place in the story. It was a decently long scene to establish just how screwed up this guy is.


The rest of the episode, I don't know, somehow it has that feel of changing direction completely midseason. The fairly classic situation where to make room for a second season you have to change direction drastically midway through the first season. The original episodes maybe finishing the original story and not lending itself to another season, we see this frequently in series. They've jumped from a coherent story line to a fairly incoherent one. Okay if he's a nut job it makes some sense but it's just the style of telling the story to the viewer has changed. It do get the feeling a lot is being purposefully vague to open up new story possibilities.

It's still great to watch with a frankly amazing cast who have been unbelievably good in every episode. I think the only person in the whole thing I wasn't amazed with was Angela's boyfriend and even then I can't tell if I disliked the actor's ability to play him or he played the douche so well I hated him :p
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It hasn't changed in direction, it's intended. You can figure this out by listening to the music they use in the show.

Elliot's theme specifically. At Jr beginning of the show, when ever his theme plays, it predominantly focuses on the structured chord progression, with a steady and organised percussive beat that briefly breaks into a disjointed tune that uses what sounds like wide intervalic scales to give an impression of a disjointed mind.

If you listen to it, it makes sense musically, but it's very all over the place. As the season gets on the structured chord progression lead in gets shorter and shorter until Elliot's theme pretty much starts from the disjointed section, leaving out the coherent structured portion entirely, also the longer that section is, the more distortion seems to be used as an effect on the synth.

It's demonstrating how his mind is getting more twisted as time goes on, as well as how distorted and disjointed his perception of reality has gotten.
 
What an annoying article, it seems all he is interested in is the character's name, nothing else matters. I couldn't care less about his ethnicity or his character's name, they were totally unimportant - all that mattered was the quality of his performance and that was off the charts.
 
leaskovski said:
Ta!! Thats a good read. I had no idea about the whole casting of Rami and this buzzfeed post...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/amirtalai/w...-a-white-character-who-really-wins#.auMeR0RWO

What a douche... No one really gives a money about the ethnicity of the character so why did he go off on one!?
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I think the guy has missed the point. He is advocating that foreign names shouldn't be changed like their ugly. Which is fair play in a romcom or something, but on the contorary if you used this guys middle eastern name it would back fire as it would make the character seem like a terrorist, which of course he is (the character) but not a cyber terrorist bent on revenge for his father, but a middle eastern terrorist bent on taking down the west.
For me in this case not invoking the stereotypes from the American psychy is probably a blessing in disguise for this show.
 
Just finished watching this.... thought it started off well, but then got a bit predictable in the end.

I usually rate how good a series is by the amount of multitasking that occurs... with this one we both ended up spending more time looking at computer screens other than watching :/

I predicted to FF that:
- Christian Slater was a figment of his imagination and it was really him running the show
- Darlene was the sister
- I also think that Tyrell's wife is the last person to do the Fsociety broadcast

Tyrell's wife is weird and looked a bit CGI in the finale.

It had so much promise in the beginning...we'll probably watch a second series to see if it gets any better.

BB x
 
leaskovski said:
I wonder if the scene with the therapists ex at the beginning was thrown in at the last minute due to the reference of the AM leaks. When exactly did that leak occur? I would have thought the filming would have been done a while back, before that happened.
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Esmail said over in Reddit that it was part of the original script, but he decided to remove it.
However, the AM leaks did actually happen, so they decided to put it back in at the last minute. Note the line is spoken with the actor off-screen, probably added very late.

Clicky Here - note, finale discussion, spoilers!
 
Watched the first season over the past three evenings on Amazon, first time in a while I've done that with a TV show. Really enjoyed it, it grabbed me from the first episode. I really enjoyed the shift from it just being a show about hacking to Elliot's delusions, I didn't expect it to go that way.
 
Only realised this was on Amazon this morning, watched the first 4 episodes, it's brilliant!

I remember watching the first episode ages ago and enjoying it then, would definitely recommend it!
 
One of the best shows I've seen in a while. Rami Malek was brilliant!

About half way through I guessed it was a bit of a 'Fight Club' thing going on but had me doubting myself in a few places.
 
First half of the season was excellent, really hooked me. Then it started to go downhill around half way in with
all the brain-bending memory, I forgot my family stuff

Felt it lost a little of it's original identity. Won't stop me gobbling up the second season though :)
 
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