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MSI: *Offical* N460GTX Hawk 1GB OC Edition thread

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It has finally arrived, the big brother to the popular N460GTX Cyclone edition, called the N460GTX Hawk. Some images below:



So what are the main differences?
A new 7+1 phase power design, using the top components for power phases on a GPU. In short this is designed to give a stable and high power delivery to the GPU when required, perfect for getting the ultimate overclock.

3 Voltage adjustments with MSI Afterburner OC tool!
World first card to support voltage adjustment of GPU, Memory and PLL Voltages for greatest overclocking control and results.

V-Check points!
Points on the PCB for multimeter connection for accurate real time voltage readings.

Twin Frozr II Thermals!
Dual 8cm fans with quad heatpipe. Copper base plate with Nickel-plating for ultimate thermal transfer. Results in low noise, and efficient cooling.

As you can see this is the card for overclockers, its quite possible to break the 1GHz Core speed barrier with this card, and is the best way to get the full OC potential out of the nvidia 460GTX GPU. If overclocking is not your bag, on your not quite so bothered about pushing the card to the limits then the cyclone is possibly a better option (it will continue to be sold).

Whats more, the first batch of stock overclockers have comes with Assassins Creed 2 game bundle free :D

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-099-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1830

Any Q's or comments on the card as always are welcome.
 
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Why so conservative on the overclock, there are cheaper cards out there with well over 800 core, surely where the hawk is priced and with its excellent overclocking potential, it would have been best to retail them with 850 core or more, 780 core grabs no ones attention at the current price.
 
bhavv said:
Will the Cyclone version ever be able to use Afterburners max voltage limit of 1.213v?
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The max at the moment is the +200mV on the latest version. Within this 950MHz should be achieved without a problem. Over that is more GPU dependant. The limit is in place to protect users from damaging their card. If your using LN2 I or similar I think there are ways around it...

RavenXXX2 said:
Why so conservative on the overclock, there are cheaper cards out there with well over 800 core, surely where the hawk is priced and with its excellent overclocking potential, it would have been best to retail them with 850 core or more, 780 core grabs no ones attention at the current price.
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Great question. The card is designed for the user to overclock so the speed its shipped at is basically irrelevant. By putting a large pre-shipped OC, it gives the message this is the fastest the card can go which is the opposite of the actual case :o Pre-overclocks also don't take into account the environment the card is used in, we don't want to dictate what the limits are if that makes any sense.

P.S - if the card came pre-overclocked even more, it would bring up the price anyway. For the OCer that knows what they are doing that cost can be saved with a button click :D
 
MSI-Guru said:
The max at the moment is the +200mV on the latest version. Within this 950MHz should be achieved without a problem. Over that is more GPU dependant. The limit is in place to protect users from damaging their card. If your using LN2 I or similar I think there are ways around it...



Great question. The card is designed for the user to overclock so the speed its shipped at is basically irrelevant. By putting a large pre-shipped OC, it gives the message this is the fastest the card can go which is the opposite of the actual case :o Pre-overclocks also don't take into account the environment the card is used in, we don't want to dictate what the limits are if that makes any sense.

P.S - if the card came pre-overclocked even more, it would bring up the price anyway. For the OCer that knows what they are doing that cost can be saved with a button click :D
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Which is exactly why you buy the cheapest version and clock it yourself. Oops!:eek:
 
MSI-Guru said:
The max at the moment is the +200mV on the latest version. Within this 950MHz should be achieved without a problem. Over that is more GPU dependant. The limit is in place to protect users from damaging their card. If your using LN2 I or similar I think there are ways around it...
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I think you misunderstood.

The max limit in Afterburner is 1.213v. The Cyclone card will only go up to 1.087v:



Clicking on apply for the bottom screenshot reverts the voltage back to 1.087v.

I would like to be able to use 1.213v to try for 950 Mhz, but this doesnt work on the cyclones. Are MSI going to ever fix this?
 
MSI-Guru said:
its quite possible to break the 1GHz Core speed barrier with this card
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Any chance you can provide a link to anyone actually hitting 1Ghz OCCT stable? I haven't managed to find any, although TT managed a close 988mhz.

MSI-Guru said:
if the card came pre-overclocked even more, it would bring up the price anyway
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Crazy, somebody better let the guys at Palit and Gainward know they're not charging enough for their faster (at stock), and cheaper, platinum/GLH cards.
 
All seems a bit underwhelming to me. Even the memory is at stock clocks.

No I'm quite happy with my £180 MSI GTX460 1Gb Cyclone edition :)

*Choke* I've just seen what OCUK are now selling the standard 1Gb cyclone model for. £30 raise in just one week, unreal. They must be in short supply.
 
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rolypolyman said:
Which is exactly why you buy the cheapest version and clock it yourself. Oops!:eek:
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The point is, without the updates to the hardware it will not be possible to hit the same speeds, but I agree the proof is in the pudding. The card has just launched so watch this space ;)

bhavv said:
I think you misunderstood.
I would like to be able to use 1.213v to try for 950 Mhz, but this doesnt work on the cyclones. Are MSI going to ever fix this?
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Try the latest version 2.0
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm
let me know how you get on...

uv said:
Any chance you can provide a link to anyone actually hitting 1Ghz OCCT stable? I haven't managed to find any, although TT managed a close 988mhz.
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http://www.guru3d.com/news/msi-geforce-gtx-460-hawk/
 
uv said:
So one anonymous person takes a photo of a few seconds of kombustor. Awesome proof :/
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The cards only just released, so give it a chance :D Reviews and user posts should be popping up over the coming weeks which should give some true insight into the OC potential but until then you will just have take it at face value ;)
 
I just found a piece of pudding:

http://forums.vr-zone.com/overclockers-hideout/833879-msi-n460gtx-hawk-1g-unboxed-overclocked-d.html

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:D
 
Martini1991 said:
Could be on L2N.
Also a benchmark doesn't deem stability to some, I can bench at 4.4GHZ, but I'm not stable at that.
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These are pushing for the top OC's not necessarily long term stability. Can you find any other cards with a 1Ghz bench, stable or not stable?


bhavv said:
They've actually reduced the maximum voltage down to 1.087v this time.

Stock voltage is 0.975v. +200mV would be 1.175v.

People with the Palit card are able to use Afterburner 1.6.1 to to set them up to 1.213v.

1.087v is not enough to go over 900 Mhz for most of these cards.
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Understood I'll find out for you..
 
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