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OCUK tradition, everybody couldn't be bothered about what I said either.
Muhammad Ali put on life support as family warned ‘the end is near - **edit Ali has now passed away*
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OCUK tradition, everybody couldn't be bothered about what I said either.
I quoted your reply when you fist posted but I started doing something else.
You have since edited your reply.
Slavery is still alive in every county a lot in non muslim even UK, US (maybe not as open), He lived in the US not oman so im not sure what that has to do with it, He wanted to change his own home.
lol, the UK and US 'a lot' compared to countries like Chad?
The point is, he had a massive problem with slavery, and obviously rightly so, yet willingly converted to a religion that was still practicing slavery legally at that time (obviously not the religion per se, but countries that are muslim countries). As I say, he was clearly confused.
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lol,
so your saying he should not have become a muslim just because a county far away with a high population of muslims still allowed slaves. not what he believed the religion taught.
it quite high compared to what we think and what it should be.
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I'm not saying he should or shouldn't have become a muslim, frankly i'm not particularly bothered, i'm as atheist as they come.
However he considered himself a slave, then converted into a religion where certain parts of the world who also followed that religion still condoned slavery. I just find that decision interesting.
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Well obviously, because it should be zero everywhere.
Im sorry but that posts makes no sense just because a country condones slavery does not mean that religion does. He is following a religion not country's laws there are many Muslims country around the world they all differ.
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Yes it should be zero, but I was talking about UK 13000 and US 60000 we are not poor 3rd world countries.
I dont know the history at the time but he may not have known everything that was happening in the world, no google but he could have also seen what was happening at the time and may have found his chosen religion better then other religions or without one but either way he was happy with it.
I dont know the history at the time but he may not have known everything that was happening in the world, no google but he could have also seen what was happening at the time and may have found his chosen religion better then other religions or without one but either way he was happy with it.
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Tell that to loons like Saleh Al-Fawzan. I guess it's open to interpretation?
Anyway, don't want to derail this thread into a religious discussion anymore than it already has so i'll say no more.
Outside of the ring aside Ali will always go down as a legend of the sport, that's how I will remember him. Not a draft dodging, religious, racist nut case (j/k
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I don't think the creators of either Islam or Christianity were overly bothered by slavery, it was fairly standard at the time.
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I was watching a documentary of him on the day he died.
He was giving an informal interview to some media or other. Talking about his wife as part of the interview
He mentioned his wife looked down at her and ''she will speak when i tell her too'' and she pulled her face in disgust.
So a man who's secondary main aim was freedom from whites did not really want to offer that same freedom/freedom of speech to his wife.
Seemed a bit two faced to hear the words come from his very mouth.
I was watching a documentary of him on the day he died.
He was giving an informal interview to some media or other. Talking about his wife as part of the interview
He mentioned his wife looked down at her and ''she will speak when i tell her too'' and she pulled her face in disgust.
So a man who's secondary main aim was freedom from whites did not really want to offer that same freedom/freedom of speech to his wife.
Seemed a bit two faced to hear the words come from his very mouth.
