Multiple US states ban the sale of high end gaming PC's.

Trying to remember the first time I saw an Energy Star bios splash screen. Decades ago surely?
 
How are they going to stop people just making their own? Or just going across the state line to buy one?

Those aren't even that high spec.
 
Many people switch the low power/standby stuff off because it causes issues.

mmj_uk said:
So how long before the EU follows suit? they already place restrictions on many electrical appliances. No doubt our (i)liberal overlord Boris will follow.
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Yea they already did with many things. Can't have a cooker, toaster or kettle above X power output. Ok but now I have to run it for twice as long to get up to temperature, so it uses no less energy in the end. Derp.

And the "eco" modes on TV litterally just makes the picture too dark, so everyone disables it.
 
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mmj_uk said:
So how long before the EU follows suit? they already place restrictions on many electrical appliances. No doubt our (i)liberal overlord Boris will follow. :p
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Hasn't Boris spent quite a lot of time and money to make a separation between what the EU does and what the UK must do? Did I imagine Brexit?
 
[FnG]magnolia said:
Hasn't Boris spent quite a lot of time and money to make a separation between what the EU does and what the UK must do? Did I imagine Brexit?
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Nothing much has changed, we're just at an economic disadvantage and seemingly more illegal immigration than ever. Must be Corbyn's fault or something :cry:
 
Nasher said:
Many people switch the low power/standby stuff off because it causes issues.



Yea they already did with many things. Can't have a cooker, toaster or kettle above X power output. Ok but now I have to run it for twice as long to get up to temperature, so it uses no less energy in the end. Derp.

And the "eco" modes on TV litterally just makes the picture too dark, so everyone disables it.
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IIRC the rules for such things (at least in the UK/EU) didn't make much difference.

What they did was encourage manufacturers to make the devices more efficient, so rather than a 2kw that sucked worse than a 20 year old 800w model (but made a great heater and a lovely howl that could be heard across the road), because "2000 has got to be better than 800w" they made them so they ran a bit quieter and wasted less energy via heat and noise.
The same with things like kettles, IIRC making them marginally better insulated/better at retaining heat whilst they boil means that they use less energy to boil the water. In the UK at least you can still get 3kw quick boil kettles, but they're marginally better insulated than they used to be.

Remember in most cases there were already limits on the practical amount of power that could be used by things like toasters, kettles and vacuum cleaners because of what the household wiring can support, but there was no need for any residential vacuum cleaner to be hitting 2400 watts as some were in the late 90's (IIRC my shop vac for dust extraction on the table saw etc is only 1200 watts), in many cases for things like hoovers the wattage was just a selling point.
 
Hunterlit said:
But you can own an electric car and that's all fine:confused: mad world we live in.
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Apples to goldfish.

An electric car is typically more energy efficient than a petrol one (but the energy density of it's "fuel" is worse), as you can never get the same level of efficiency from a small petrol engine as you can from a large one that is running constantly at the optimum rpm in the best environment connected up to a generator.
There are temperatures and speeds at which they run far more efficiently, with a car engine you might hit that doing ~50mph on a great quality, flat long stretch of road but rarely at most other times.
 
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