Multirotor, multicopter and quadcopter discussion - The Drone thread

DJMK4 · 19 Feb 2015 at 12:27

krisboats said:
Just strip a litte more of the insulation off each wire and twist them until it's all set up properly. You're only getting the correct motor direction, not flying with them so they don't have to be sturdy.

Slide heatshrink over the wires first and leave it out the way. Twist the exposed 5-10mm of wire to the corresponding esc wire for each motor. Test it, adjust as necessary, then solder and slide the heatshrink over. It's really no hassle and is sturdier/lighter than bullet connectors.

Yeh will do this

what I was saying is, is there anyway I can test motor direction without having a lower rating battery yet, I can use the 4S battery on my F450, to connect up once I have my FC installed, and escs attached and soldered/connected, and XT60 battery connector and cable soldered /connected

I will probably get a lower rated battery last for this model, but I still need power to test motor directions, temporaraly

If you get what I mean

gandhi · 19 Feb 2015 at 12:31

DJMK4 said:
Yeh will do this what I was saying is, is there anyway I can test motor direction without having a lower rating battery yet, I can use the 4S battery on my F450, to connect up once I have my FC installed, and escs attached and soldered/connected, and XT60 battery connector and cable soldered /connected

I will probably get a lower rated battery last for this model, but I still need power to test motor directions, temporaraly

If you get what I mean

Both the DYS motors and those emax ESC's will take 4s as far as I'm aware. Just don't run it at 100% throttle. With no prop load, they will spin up to some ridiculous RPM!

DJMK4 · 19 Feb 2015 at 12:32

gandhi said:
Both the DYS motors and those emax ESC's will take 4s as far as I'm aware. Just don't run it at 100% throttle. With no prop load, they will spin up to some ridiculous RPM!

I wont be, it will only be spun up enough to figure out motor direction, and will only use the throttle properly once its all built, and I have a new lower rating battery for it (IE not my 4S 5500mah battery)

gandhi · 19 Feb 2015 at 12:33

There are people who run them on 4s all the time for mentalist thrust creation. Not sure I'm that brave though

Genoma · 19 Feb 2015 at 13:13

gandhi said:
Yeah, but have you seen this

One too many MR's for me though

The Armattan looks really nice but I don't really *get* 450 quads

Aren't they a bit too small for a 3D gymbal for filming and a bit to big for fast FPV fun?

gandhi · 19 Feb 2015 at 13:48

Genoma said:
The Armattan looks really nice but I don't really *get* 450 quads Aren't they a bit too small for a 3D gymbal for filming and a bit to big for fast FPV fun?

You could probably run a simple gimbal, they don't weigh too much (200gr ish) but I think the real idea is that you can run larger props, more efficient motors and therefore bigger, higher capacity batteries and get further away/longer flights. The TBS disco is a classic example of this.

Col_M · 19 Feb 2015 at 14:26

Genoma said:
The Armattan looks really nice but I don't really *get* 450 quads Aren't they a bit too small for a 3D gymbal for filming and a bit to big for fast FPV fun?

They're like the Bixler of quads, very versatile and good for just leisurely flights. They're also the best quad to learn to fly on, they're not as twitchy as a 250 and not as expensive as anything bigger, the parts are also very common so fixing it is also easy.

No worries if you don't "get" it though, I don't "get" why people attach a gimbal and plod about for no commercial gain. It's all good though, diversity (not the receiver type) is what makes this hobby so great, you can find your own interest and niche.

Russinating · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:17

Someone here bought and posted a monitor mount for a controller? Think it was 3D printed? Anyone got the link?

gandhi · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:19

I still want one. What can I sell? I love my 250 and both my hexas too much to part with them. My 330 quad was the first one I built so has sentimental value. I really can't justify 5 flying things, can I?

Kanifee · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:31

gandhi said:
I still want one. What can I sell? I love my 250 and both my hexas too much to part with them. My 330 quad was the first one I built so has sentimental value. I really can't justify 5 flying things, can I?

Yes.

Rilot said:
Pants. I just cooked one of my Naze boards. Stupidly connected the voltage sensing backwards. It went pop and the magic smoke escaped from one of the chips. It was the full one with the baro and magnetometer too. No, I couldn't have cooked the cheapo one, it had to be the full one.

Oh well, another on order.

Did the exact same thing to mine, now i always remember that live is inside and ground is out. Thankfully mine was not a full one and only a acro.

DJMK4 · 19 Feb 2015 at 20:51

Instructions on the diatone silver blade kit could have included more detail to setup

I'm guessing the led light board, you need to cut one strip off and test test them connecting to battery.

Anyone got a good video on building the 250 frame for diatone, most of them are unboxing there are a few which I may check out tomorrow

If I just get a small aa battery and some wire and test the LEDs as I think they are different colour but not marked

Still need to think about if I'm going to use break out cables or soldering on to the power board

Downsy · 19 Feb 2015 at 23:07

Multiwii parts removed, dji naza parts installed. Tomorrow I'll try flashing the firmware to V2. See how things get on

Crezzlin · 20 Feb 2015 at 02:45

Anyonre used one shot yet? Trying find the best Pid controller to use on a mini hex.

. http://youtu.be/oOtyGGo5s6M

Downsy · 21 Feb 2015 at 15:56

Well... got everything nicely tuned in on the Naza setup but had an issue where things started behaving erratically and landed in the neighbour's garden. Broke a prop and an arm so it will be a few days before I can get back up again. Grrr

Rilot · 21 Feb 2015 at 18:06

DJMK4 said:
Instructions on the diatone silver blade kit could have included more detail to setup

I'm guessing the led light board, you need to cut one strip off and test test them connecting to battery.

Anyone got a good video on building the 250 frame for diatone, most of them are unboxing there are a few which I may check out tomorrow

If I just get a small aa battery and some wire and test the LEDs as I think they are different colour but not marked

Still need to think about if I'm going to use break out cables or soldering on to the power board

It's pretty self explanatory. The parts only fit one way mostly.
The LEDs, yes you need to test them to see what colour they are. Use a 3S battery.

I'd use the power board. It makes things very tidy.

TheOtherOption · 21 Feb 2015 at 19:28

Just tried my upgraded F550 with two 3S 8400mAh batteries and it hovered for nearly 24.5mins before dropping to land sharply.

That's with it all weighing around 4kg!! Am going to get me some 4S 5000's and see how it fairs with those next.

DJMK4 · 22 Feb 2015 at 16:48

Rilot said:
It's pretty self explanatory. The parts only fit one way mostly.
The LEDs, yes you need to test them to see what colour they are. Use a 3S battery.

I'd use the power board. It makes things very tidy.

Yeh managed to get most of the frame built today (Dispite crossthreading one of the red standoffs, and rounding one of the hex screws stuck in it, so had to throw that standoff away, luckily there was one spare standoff!)

I dont have a 3S battery to test the LED with, as mentioned I only have a 4S from my other model at the moment, I did try using some wire I found from something a few AA batteries but no output on the LED, can I use the 4S battery I have ? and some wire? chances of a fireball of smoke?

Has anyone tested the LED's yet, what colours are in the pack?

I will just use the powerboard if thats what most people are going for then, although I dont want to cut the wiring down too much, i want to ensure there is enough spare, so will just loop any excess wiring and cable tie it.

One thing I did notice, is there are these in the kit, do these go through the rubber dampners or something that are attached to the platform at the top of the kit? can anyone tell me what the circled parts are in RED are supposed to go? cant see them on the pictures that came with the kit, and looked on google images too cant see to locate where these are supposed to go

Here is what I have so far

Skeeter · 22 Feb 2015 at 17:12

Spacers to go between the bottom 2 plates? I have something similar on mine and it makes a gap big enough to fit my ESCs and the Breakout cable inside the frame.

DJMK4 · 22 Feb 2015 at 18:01

Skeeter said:
Spacers to go between the bottom 2 plates? I have something similar on mine and it makes a gap big enough to fit my ESCs and the Breakout cable inside the frame.

Not sure if that's what its for. As the bottom two plates are held together with the legs in between by hex screws and silver nuts.

Will have a look though

Kipz · 22 Feb 2015 at 18:48

DJMK4 said:
Not sure if that's what its for. As the bottom two plates are held together with the legs in between by hex screws and silver nuts.

Will have a look though

When you figure out what colour the LED's are let us know. From looking at them it seems 3 are one colour and 1 is the other but I'm not too sure :confused:

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