Multirotor, multicopter and quadcopter discussion - The Drone thread

not personally, but they have a landline number across the top of their site so might be worth a ring if in any doubt.

Don't forget, you need the rtf inductrix, not the bnf version ;)

Those batteries are cheap for it too at just over £4!
 
Would this be the right spare battery for the Blade Inductrix? (I can't see it on the compatible list!)

Is there a multi-battery charger out there somewhere that anyone can recommended too? (the "Sky RC Quattro" charger looks the business but seems a bit pricey at £33! :eek:)
 
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Would this be the right spare battery for the Blade Inductrix? (I can't see it on the compatible list!)
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Yes, and no. It's not the one Blade supply, but is the 45C version. Standard is the 25C version.

It is electrically compatible, will last a bit longer in flight, and the only physical difference is it's about 4mm longer than the standard 25C version. I don't have the Inductrix so I can't say for sure if that will cause problems, but I'd be very surprised if it did.

As for chargers, there are a variety of options, including a four-port one from Blade. Be careful with others, though, because there is some cheap rubbish about, too. Also be aware that there's a difference between a true multiport charger, monitoring each battery separately, and something just supplying a charge voltage in parallel. With the latter, you really want to be sure all batteries are about equally discharged when you connect them.

Personally, with something like the Inductrix, I'd me more inclined to invest in 6 or 8 batteries, and charge them one at a time. When flying, just change batteries for a fresh one. I'd also recommend letting those Inductrix motors rest and cool down a bit between flights, because they can get very hot. Running them constantly, battery after battery, is a pretty good way of shortening motor life.

So if you have 5 minutes flying, 5 minutes rest, then repeat for several batteries, you've got an hour or so. If you want to fly constantly, I'd recommend 2x Inductrix, and alternate between them. It's one reason for red and blue bodies.
 
Yes, and no. It's not the one Blade supply, but is the 45C version. Standard is the 25C version.

It is electrically compatible, will last a bit longer in flight, and the only physical difference is it's about 4mm longer than the standard 25C version. I don't have the Inductrix so I can't say for sure if that will cause problems, but I'd be very surprised if it did.

As for chargers, there are a variety of options, including a four-port one from Blade. Be careful with others, though, because there is some cheap rubbish about, too. Also be aware that there's a difference between a true multiport charger, monitoring each battery separately, and something just supplying a charge voltage in parallel. With the latter, you really want to be sure all batteries are about equally discharged when you connect them.

Personally, with something like the Inductrix, I'd me more inclined to invest in 6 or 8 batteries, and charge them one at a time. When flying, just change batteries for a fresh one. I'd also recommend letting those Inductrix motors rest and cool down a bit between flights, because they can get very hot. Running them constantly, battery after battery, is a pretty good way of shortening motor life.

So if you have 5 minutes flying, 5 minutes rest, then repeat for several batteries, you've got an hour or so. If you want to fly constantly, I'd recommend 2x Inductrix, and alternate between them. It's one reason for red and blue bodies.

This is all excellent advice. 4mm longer on the battery wont matter. Weirdly, I also try not to fly circuits in one direction only so it balances wear on the motors. I probably shouldn't admit to things like that though.
 
Thanks for all of the advice guys (especially gandhi and Aldav) - as you can tell I literally know nothing about these things! :p

Unless it contravenes OCUK's competitor policy, can anyone point me towards any reliable retailers for these sorts of things? (I mentioned wireless madness above which appeals because of it being in the UK but just curious as to where most people get their equipment from?)

Oh and I can't seem to see a multi-battery charger, even on the (US) Blade website - can anyone link me to one??

Thanks again for all the guidance!!
 
Thanks for all of the advice guys (especially gandhi and Aldav) - as you can tell I literally know nothing about these things! :p

Unless it contravenes OCUK's competitor policy, can anyone point me towards any reliable retailers for these sorts of things? (I mentioned wireless madness above which appeals because of it being in the UK but just curious as to where most people get their equipment from?)

Oh and I can't seem to see a multi-battery charger, even on the (US) Blade website - can anyone link me to one??

Thanks again for all the guidance!!

Maplins sell them - so you could potentially walk in and pick one up. I got mine from HERE as they were the only place I could find it in stock in the UK at the time. They were quick to ship it out, used DPD. They were short of one of the extra batteries I ordered so when it came back into stock, they even sent that via DPD next day.

With regards to the multiport chargers. There are some available but they all appear to fit directly into a proper lipo charger, as opposed to a USB port, so not much use to you.

To be honest, the multiport USB charges are next to useless anyway. A USB port only has a limited current supply so if you spread that across 5 batteries instead of 1, they take 5x as long to charge so it's just a bit more convenient rather than quicker. I just use the supplied charger and do them one at a time. They're only small batteries so only take 20 mins or so to charge.
 
Russ, join ARPAS. I don't have PFAW but am a member just because I find the information useful from a hobbyist perspective, and one day if I'm relapse free for long enough I may end up getting PFAW.
They have a Facebook group where you can discuss things like you ask. Most members are extremely helpful. You can join as an associate member for free for 6 months.
 
Got some drone related stuff in members market for sale. Prolly not allowed to plug it here... but you guys would never see it otherwise.
 
This is all excellent advice. 4mm longer on the battery wont matter. Weirdly, I also try not to fly circuits in one direction only so it balances wear on the motors. I probably shouldn't admit to things like that though.

Two things would worry me slightly about the 4mm. The first is, depending on how the battery fits the Inductrix, will it physically fit? Probably, but not having one I can't be sure. Second, on such a very light device, would a slightly longer battery shift the centre of gravity enough to matter, or enough to be beyond trimming out? That might be, but again, I don't have one to try it.
 
Russ, join ARPAS. I don't have PFAW but am a member just because I find the information useful from a hobbyist perspective, and one day if I'm relapse free for long enough I may end up getting PFAW.
They have a Facebook group where you can discuss things like you ask. Most members are extremely helpful. You can join as an associate member for free for 6 months.

Thanks, seems associate membership is disabled though :(. One relatively unimportant question doesn't really warrant £360 a year!
 
Two things would worry me slightly about the 4mm. The first is, depending on how the battery fits the Inductrix, will it physically fit? Probably, but not having one I can't be sure. Second, on such a very light device, would a slightly longer battery shift the centre of gravity enough to matter, or enough to be beyond trimming out? That might be, but again, I don't have one to try it.

The battery is held in by a little loop of plastic on the bottom of the quad, almost like a belt. It's not restricted at either end, so you can slide the battery back and forth. It does, rather annoyingly, sometimes get dislodged in a crash so you have to push the battery back in.
 
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Oh and I can't seem to see a multi-battery charger, even on the (US) Blade website - can anyone link me to one??

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EFlite EFLC1004 "Celectra" 4-port. About £28. Requires either batteries, or separate 6v PSU (EFLC1005, or similar). Can be powered by car battery, IIRC.

Just be aware with LiPo batteries that they need to be treated with respect. If you discharge them too far, too often, you either degrade them or kill them entirely. So unless you want to be buying new ones far more often than necessary, a good charging regime is necessary.

At the other end, if overcharged, they can be very volatile, especially if damaged. The real danger comes from much bigger ones, but if you've ever seen an abused LiPo let rip with a 3 foot sheet of flame, you treat them with respect. And as it's a chemical flame, once it starts they're next to impossible to put out until they burn out. There's any number of YouTube videos of this. It's worth a google.

When charging a LiPo, a good charger monitors the battery and as it approaches full charge, and progressively cuts charge current down to a trickle. If you have a good multi-port charger, it's doing that for each cell individually. It's effectively four single-port chargers in one box. If you just use a cheap parallel charger, the risk is it's monitoring just one, say cell one. So if one or more of the others is significantly less discharged than cell one, you risk that cell or cells being at the point charge needs to be cut to trickle, but isn't because cell one still needs charging. The result is overchargjng, overheating and just possibly, fire.

My advice is to EITHER get several USB chargers and mains/USB adapters, one per battery, or a good multiport charger. Or just do them one at a time as I suggested in the last post. For the Inductrix size batteries, I'd go for the former. But if you think £30 for a charger is expensive, you really don't want to look at what a multi-battery charger, and 100A PSU for multiple 6 or 8 cell batteries for big birds cost. :D

I don't intend to scare you with those flame videos, and those Inductrix batteries are very small. I don't have the Inductrix but I do have and have had several dozen of the batteries, and while a few have worn out and died, I have yet to have one explode.

I perhaps take it a bit far, but I have detailed records of every LiPo I've eved had, showing date and time of every charge, and the duration of the charge. You can even get battery monitoring apps for Android, etc, to keep track. If you go no further than Inductrix, it's overkill for sure, but I have numerous and much larger batteries for other things, and keeping track of how a battery has been used gives me advanced warning of problems. I don't use older, 'worn' batteries for long or demanding flights on expensive birds. It isn't worth the risk. This sort of battery discipline is no bad thing, though by no means necessary, at the micro-drone end. And all it needs is a cheap notebook and about 10 seconds per charge to make a note.
 
The battery is held in by a little loop of plastic on the bottom of the quad, almost like a belt. It's not restricted at either end, so you can slide the battery back and forth. It does, rather annoyingly, sometimes get dislodged in a crash so you have to push the battery back in.
Okay. I can picture that. I have a few micro and Nano helis with a little plastic slot you slide them into. Or the 'internal' mount like the Hubsan X4. I can change the balance, and hence tendency to drift fowards or backwards, is the battery isn't fully home, in those plastic slots. Your method, with a velcro pad and belt, holds much bigger batteries in in some bigger birds.
 
Woooo :D

My shiny new Blade Inductrix has landed (pun very much intended! :p)

Looking forward to getting home, completely ignoring the instructions and smashing it into the TV and breaking it within 9 seconds! :D
 
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