Music; where did it all go wrong?

90s eurodance videos on youtube always have interesting comments.

snap - rythm is a dancer
la bouche - sweet dreams
haddaway - what is love
culture beat - mr vain
black box - ride on time
venga boys - boom boom boom
corona - try me out
real mccoy - another night
real mccyoy - run away
cappela - you got to let the music
corona - baby baby

etc
 
I think for most people, the music you listened too in your teens set the emotive standards for anything else to come. I guess at that age you are at a point emotionally when you first become infatuated with things, be it a girl, a game or a song.

During that time, everything you enjoy gets magnified, and thus nothing later in life can compare.

For me personally, it was trance from 97-2002 that really hit the spot, and even though I still listen to dance music pretty much exclusively, nothing in the past 7 years has come close to how music from back then made and still makes me feel.
 
I think for most people, the music you listened too in your teens set the emotive standards for anything else to come. I guess at that age you are at a point emotionally when you first become infatuated with things, be it a girl, a game or a song.

During that time, everything you enjoy gets magnified, and thus nothing later in life can compare.

For me personally, it was trance from 97-2002 that really hit the spot, and even though I still listen to dance music pretty much exclusively, nothing in the past 7 years has come close to how music from back then made and still makes me feel.

i wouldnt say that i can look back at queen , blondie and even elvis and understand why they were so popular for their time.

they changed the periods they were in modern music is just over produced crap.

someone seems to have killled the real artists off in favour of people who make good PR or attract kids
 
Your favourite bands are the ones you listened to when you are about 14 or 15, and your taste then only changes slowly. But music changes more quickly, so you get left behind.


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I'm 53 and my favourite bands are Evile, Myrath, Children Of Bodom and Lamb Of God so please don't class me with these idiots who can't be bothered to go out and find music better than what they listened to as a child.
Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath will always be in my heart but I've always moved on.
 
You're not looking hard enough for new music.

Rock music wanes in the mainstream, in the charts. But it continues. You just need to look deeper.

That's what I say to everyone that starts threads like this and it's true - that sort of music was REALLY popular, and as such was in the charts, therefore very easy to find. These days you just gotta dig a little harder.

The really folly is, however, that you still expect to have the same connection with music as you had in your teens. It's unlikely that you'll ever feel like that again, however you can still feel very passionate and connected to music. That sort of primal release you used to get when listening to that sort of music is directly related to the myriad of emotions, most of which were new, that you were feeling as a teenager. You're a much more controlled individual now, but good music is still out there. Music to love passionately still exists out in the world. You may never feel the same kind of buzz as you used to, but you'll definitely feel connected to music in other ways now.
 
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Nothings gone wrong for music, it's just that Popular music is overthrown by hard hitting sexy numbers and xfactor idol style competitions as well as record companies ruining musicians.

There are plenty of very good musicians out there new and still going you just have to look around.

edit - OP have you heard of Kings of Leon? Kasabian? I think people can overlook very good bands by wearing rose tints.
 
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I am / was a massive Oasis fan but I still think there is good music out there if you look hard enough. The key thing is don't limit yourself to just commercial music, or even 'new' music. I had some good results using www.musicplasma.com a while back, couple something like that with youtube and nowadays it is very very easy to broaden your horizons.

Don't get me wrong I don't think there are any bands of similar style to Oasis churning out such a high volume of quality tunes as Oasis did in the mid-90s, but the question I would ask is, do you really need them to? Find 5 bands with 5 tracks each that you love and you've got yourself a couple of hours of quality listening ahead of you.

If you want some recommendations post-90s I would say Hot Fuss by The Killers is a very good album that is arguably as good an album as anything from the 90s. Or even going the other way, Rumours by Fleetwood Mac has to be up there with Oasis' finest.
 
I don't think it has gone wrong. Popular music has always been pretty terrible. Still lots of decent bands out there.

You need to look hard for new music, of find a friend to do the hardworking and just listen to their finds.
Festivals and gigs are a great way as well, seeing support bands.
 
I think there's something like a reverse Doppler effect that happens with music (and films) that make us think everything was better in the past when the truth of it is more that we condense the past into a tight space where everything seems to occur along a much shorter time-frame whereas the now takes longer to happen.

My favourite album is, and will probably continue to be for quite some time, 'A Rush of Blood to the Head' but that doesn't mean I think current music is dead. Sure I don't understand how people can listen to the trash that does be on the radio but you get the odd gem such as (and dare I say it) Adele who shines through all the crud. Arcade Fire's latest album was fantastic and easily the best of last year (in my humble opinion) and while Coldplay's latest may be a far cry from their best and U2 certainly aren't producing any more Achtung Babys there will inevitably be more bands around the corner who will change the music industry with their great works.

If even 1% of all the music produced in the world was fantastic we'd be very lucky indeed.
 
The really folly is, however, that you still expect to have the same connection with music as you had in your teens. It's unlikely that you'll ever feel like that again, however you can still feel very passionate and connected to music. That sort of primal release you used to get when listening to that sort of music is directly related to the myriad of emotions, most of which were new, that you were feeling as a teenager. You're a much more controlled individual now, but good music is still out there. Music to love passionately still exists out in the world. You may never feel the same kind of buzz as you used to, but you'll definitely feel connected to music in other ways now.

I have more of a connection to it now I'm older. I think when I was young I tended more to like what my friends liked to an extent. Now, I'm happily finding new music myself and then trying and failing (usually) to get my friends to like it too.

Was discussing with someone recently that the charts is now the Top 40 of record label marketing. You can pretty much buy a number 1.
 
I'd have to agree and say I'm also more connected to music now than I was ten years ago. I'm not connected in the same way though, so I probably should have been clearer about that.

That rush you got when you heard X band for the first time in your youth that changed everything for you is, sadly, something that'll never happen again. I don't want to say you can't feel connected to music as you get older, just that you have a different emotional reaction to it.

I find that I'm a lot more involved in music than I ever have, or ever could have been when I was younger. So age does have its perks!
 
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In the end, music is business. And as a business model, at some point at the beginning of 2000's it became much easier to make similar figures on endless chains of one man/woman talentless embarrassingly mediocre one hit wonders than keep ever revolving band setups usually involving one or more leaders with god complex, unpredictable media behaviour and bottomless appetite for self destruction. The simple fact is, it takes five figures to "make" 5-10 consecutive no.2's out of some TV talent contest, usually easy to direct and very grateful and driven enough to scratch a hole in the doors to your auditions while it takes many cheques with six numbers to keep a bunch of photographer punching, interview hating, 'you will not tell me what to do', nightmare "stars" with a ticket to has-been growing in their wallet with each month they decide to spend finding "new sound" in caribean island resorts instead of listening to producer and making what may or may not manage to repeat their original success in a studio.

It's no secret that to modern business big artists are liability. Big artists are a problem. They will sell more, but they will eat, take and demand more. Often they will go off the rails. You pay them 80 million and they go and record Frank Sinatra songs. Or demand artistic independence and instead of another What's Up Pussy Cat re-emerge from the studio with CD full of tales how The Lord Will Trouble Me. They will demand millions to be spent on every horrible **** they select for a single. They will demand to have tour organized, at loss, to places that will never generate enough legitimate sales to cover for promotion - places like Ukraine or Mexico. They won't go on I'm A Celebrity In a Jungle to earn good, honest, long term money from faked gossip magazine "accidental" paparazzi photoshoots, instead they will do stupid things, like help Africa, organise charities or worse yet, get involves in some Greenpee movement and go block building sites of mothership sponsoring, press, TV and radio station owning energy companies or preach about debt of some non record buying third world countries to politicians. And there is nothing as a studio exec you can do about it. They put on stupid sunglasses and leather pants and go wreck your good work right in front of your eyes.

On a serious note though. Many people also don't seem to understand that contracts and distribution rights are extremely difficult to negotiate retrospectively, so it's much easier to bet few bucks on some Snoopy Shady, who's going to use 30 second sample from guaranteed Queen hit, than to spend years trying to find, grow and maintain another Queen. Any dollar from Britain's Got Idol forerunner can be earned here and now, but there is very little money in Pink Floyd selling their 1976 album in another million pieces, because that contract still operates on the back of 1969 contract, and earns the studio couple of twopences and a farthing per record, instead of 80% of dough. And that's also the reason why there is no point in pushing radios and tv stations to play anything but new cheap dross as well.
 
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I like all kinds of music but I just can't stomach the crap that passes for music today.

My musical tastes take in cassical, jazz, pop, soul, rock, goth, indie, older R&B and some dance but really, how poor is todays muscial genre?
 
I'd have to agree and say I'm also more connected to music now than I was ten years ago. I'm not connected in the same way though, so I probably should have been clearer about that.

That rush you got when you heard X band for the first time in your youth that changed everything for you is, sadly, something that'll never happen again. I don't want to say you can't feel connected to music as you get older, just that you have a different emotional reaction to it.

I find that I'm a lot more involved in music than I ever have, or ever could have been when I was younger. So age does have its perks!

I do know what you mean but I think I'm a bit weird and living that in reverse. :D

As an aside are you involved with the Daily Dischord in some way?
 
I like all kinds of music but I just can't stomach the crap that passes for music today.

My musical tastes take in cassical, jazz, pop, soul, rock, goth, indie, older R&B and some dance but really, how poor is todays muscial genre?

But there's a ton of great new jazz being created today (last year was pretty fantastic for jazz releases), and I'm sure good music in all sorts of other genres. I guess I'm not sure what you mean by "today's musical genre".
 
I miss that era too. Been listening to The Verve a lot recently. Brings back an awful lot of memories.

As for what I listen to now.... John Frusciante

Him > all
 
Lol, there is plenty of good music out there. You just have to look beyond the radio to find it.

Absolutely correct!

Plenty of stuff about - best way I've found it to d/l some podcasts on the genere I'm after and won't take long to find some new stuff.

Or Spotify

Most modern music makes me sick, how can a lot of this stuff end up making labels, producers and artists millions? As I mentioned on a previous thread, the small amount of good music that makes it on the radio is overplayed anyway and people get sick of it!
 
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