My Citizenship Journey

Good luck Burnsy. I've only recently pulled my finger out to get something on paper to say I am Australian. My parents lived over there for a few years on permanent visas so when I came along I got an Aussie birth certificate.

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NexusK said:
Perhaps i'm being daft but to me it looks like you're creating a drama story. The idea of you being rejected from the UK leaves me with no other conclusion. It's ridiculous.
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I don't want to get into a EU debate, but there are no dramas here, just lots of concerns about the future that I want to protect myself from.

If the UK did vote out, I'd still expect to be able to live and work here it'd be silly to do anything else. With that said, here are a list of some of my worries and why I want to become a UK citizen.

1. Would I need a work visa? How much would that cost? How painful would the process be?
2. How retroactive would change in law be - both in the UK and in Europe?
3. What other restrictions may be placed on EU nationals with a UK who wants to have more control over who works here?
4. The Germans re a bit picky with who they'll let have dual nationality. EU members are one, so if the UK left, German law would need to change. How would it change? Nobody knows, but hopefully it wouldn't be retroactive.
5. This isn't to do with the EU per se, but at the moment I can't vote in general elections or referendums. This frustrates me.
6. If I ever needed consular assistance abroad, I'd rather that be British.

Most people who are not EU nationals, don't care about the above, but this affects me in a very personal way. The whole EU question is as much about personal freedoms as anything else.
 
OP

1. You would not get kicked out when the UK leave the EU.
2. You are and will always be German (remember they are better at football than us) :)
 
Best of luck, I also don't much trust the British public :p

I'm about 18 months away from being eligible for Taiwanese citizenship - though I'd have to renounce my British citizenship first, and that just seems like an altogether stupid idea when I have permanent residency and open work rights anyway.
 
eatcustard said:
OP

1. You would not get kicked out when the UK leave the EU.
2. You are and will always be German (remember they are better at football than us) :)
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1. I'm not expecting to, but there are other issues as I've explained above.
2. Self identity is probably another reason I'm looking to sort this out. I'm as British as most people here, despite my current passport.
 
Cooper said:
Dual citizenship should be banned.

How can you trust anyone that's willing to swear allegiance to two countries just to make life easier, even worse if you become American, that involves renouncing all loyalty to your country of birth, and if you raise your right hand and make the oath but don't really mean it, that really doesn't say much about the character of the individual does it.

If you genuinely want to leave this country behind, then fine, become a citizen of your new country and good luck to you, but it should come with a cost for turning your back on your country of birth. And that cost should be losing citizenship of said country, that will make people actually think long and hard about doing it.

Some things are more important than having an easy option.

Many countries don't allow dual citizenship and neither should we.
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Interested to see where you were born, and where you live now. Dual national isnt about taking the easy route. Im British, but the USA is now my home and I should be fully integrated into the society.

I'll see what you have to say, but i just have to pop down to walmart to buy an AR15. :p
 
Feef said:
Best of luck, I also don't much trust the British public :p

I'm about 18 months away from being eligible for Taiwanese citizenship - though I'd have to renounce my British citizenship first, and that just seems like an altogether stupid idea when I have permanent residency and open work rights anyway.
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It would be a very strange decision to make to switch your nationality to Taiwanese simply if the referendum resulted in a 'leave' decision. I could understand maybe someone who had a decent chance of making it in an EU country doing it (they are fluent in the language, have worked there previously and can work there easily again, have family ties etc.) having a plan in place, but Taiwan seems like a strange one.
 
Caged said:
It would be a very strange decision to make to switch your nationality to Taiwanese simply if the referendum resulted in a 'leave' decision. I could understand maybe someone who had a decent chance of making it in an EU country doing it (they are fluent in the language, have worked there previously and can work there easily again, have family ties etc.) having a plan in place, but Taiwan seems like a strange one.
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Should have been clearer, the referendum has no bearing on my decision, they were two unconnected points. I'd not switch my British passport.

I agree that Taiwan would be an odd one to choose, what with it not being recognised as a real country by most of the world :p I don't personally know anyone who's done it, even those who have been here 20+ years. Aside from being able to vote or buy property, it would make no difference to my life at all.

Though, I do find it kind of unfair that Taiwanese nationals are allowed to take on a second nationality, but foreigners have to renounce their existing one before getting citizenship here.
 
doofski said:
but the USA is now my home and I should be fully integrated into the society.
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If that's how you feel fine, go ahead and become a US citizen, but you are going to stand in a room, raise your right hand and swear allegiance to a new country, forsaking loyalty to your country of birth.

From the oath you would take:

that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen
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..so why should you get the right to keep British citizenship after swearing you no longer have any loyalty to the country?
 
Not sure if this has been asked before, but where was your birth registered? I'm assuming that it wasn't the UK but Germany instead?
 
Burnsy2023 said:
although I was born, raised, educated and reside in the UK, I am technically German as I have a German mother
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Wut? According to who? Is that a legal stance or your personal stance? Seems bonkers to me.

My Dad was born in the UK to a Polish father and a British/Indian mother, but he's always had a British passport, and there's no question of his nationality.

Why are you German? This may sound daft, but you are not your mother :p
 
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