My Golf Project

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Suspension has arrived :D

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Off to fit it now and hopefully a road test tonight!
 
Tonights update:

Suspension fiited

Front

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Back

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Brake fluid, oil and spark plugs changed and car back on the floor

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Not gone too low, some testing required tomorrow night

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looks good mate, ill hopefully see you sunday,

P.S. if i pay for the ticket will you take me round?

I'll take you round regardless, no need for the ticket. I'm sure my passengers will need a break at some point :D

Don't expect a quick lap, I'm still learning the ring and this new suspension is going to be interesting!
 
After reading all 34 pages on this thread in one afternoon, I have one simple question about your project. How many times have you taken a bloody engine out of a Golf and put it back again?

LMAO I've stopped counting, about 4 I think?!

EddScott said:
Great rebuild thread.

Out of mild interest, what is involved in putting a 1.8T into a MK3 golf? We have an old Mk3 golf driver and its done our family well over the years and seems a shame to run such a faithful car into the ground.

Have ideas of making it look like a very well looked after driver - but with something interesting inside.

For starters see my other project thread:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17748466

It's basically the same as the mk2, more work is required on the intercooler and wiring but this thread would be a rough guide! It would be easier to start with a fuel injected car.
 
Quick update before I start for the 'ring

Suspension was set up this morning and now feels awesome :D

Seats have arrived and fitted, much better than the RS Recaros.

This diff is going to take some getting used to!

Pics and stuff to follow on Wednesday when I get back.

A lovely 6 hour drive to Dover now....
 
Quick update via the hotels wifi spot and a few pics to keep you going:

Having an awesome time :D

The suspension and diff combo is ******* amazing! Well worth the last minute rush fitting it!

Some pics of the Golf taken by dsb and myself (good ones taken by dsb!)

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and before

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Big thanks to dsb for showing us around, you're a star man.

Decent update to come on Wednesday!

Wish you were all here :p
 
How much did the suspension set you back? Coilovers right?

What brake setup do you have on the front? Standard?

Suspension was expensive!

Front brake set up uses Mk2 16V GTI calipers, 280mm Golf Rallye disks and some Mintex fast road pads. They work really well.

alexthecheese said:
What's it like at putting the power down with the diff? Is it progressive or does the turbo come in and the wheels struggle like crazy?

Power comes in very progressively, it doesnt feel like there's a turbo on it in low boost it's just smooth and very tractable. The diff is amazing, you feel one front wheel start to lose grip and it just sorts it out and pulls you out of the corner.

gord said:
Are you not going to get the premature detonation if you go back to higher boost? And doesnt premature detonation eat your piston/cylinder heads?

Yes and yes. It needs to be remapped for high boost then all will be fine.

Lopéz said:
I thought it was fine without the diff, but then I like wheelspin

No comment :p

agw_01 said:
What pressure does it run at the two different boost settings?

12 PSI in Low and 20 PSI in High

[huzeeee] said:
Sometimes you get one spring with a tighter wind at the top much to the same affect. This is so the suspension is progressive, the tighter coils ccompress more easily than the wide coils, so small bumps are absorbed whilst the stiff spring is holding the wheel on the ground and taking any major body roll forces (thats how i've understood it anyhow- if im wrong tell me)

On my coilovers, the smaller spring is called a "helper" spring, it is there to ensure that the main spring stays in place when the suspension reaches full droop (ie when airborne). If the helper spring was missing the main spring would just rattle about when the damper is fully extended. When the car is on the floor the helper spring is totally compressed and has no effect on the main spring.

Ring update to follow once I transfer some pics from my laptop.
 
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The 'Ring report:

We left Friday afternoon, Golf being filled with luggage. Please note the Clio Trophy that Gareth left at home and regretted all weekend!

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Arrived at the ring late Saturday afternoon, went straight to a spectating point as the track wasnt open to the public until 17:00. Saw this in the car park:

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Ouch!

Once the track opened we went out for a planned "steady" lap. No idea what happened here but I went a bit silly and managed to scare everyone in the car including myself! It was Bob's first visit to the ring and as usual told me like it is "Llyr you were driving like an idiot, slow down and build it up or the car isnt going to arrive home!" Looking back probably the best advice given all weekend.

Went to PistenKlause for food that night and to celebrate Bob's birthday!

The track was open all day on the Sunday and it was really busy, lots of people were crashing and the track closed 4 times during the day. For the last hour the track was closed to bikes due to the conditions. We met up with dsb and his wife who showed us around. I took dsb out for a lap in the golf and as we were coming in asked if he would like another! The second lap was muck quicker than the first and felt good.

Waiting to go out with dsb:

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The new suspension and diff has made such a difference to the car, it feels brillaint to drive now. It's planted at high speeds and the diff just drags the front end round corners. It's amazing how much traction it generates.

By the end of Sunday I think we had used 14 laps out of our 25 lap ticket. Gareth did 4 in a row around Sunday tea time while myself and dsb went to Adenau bridge to take some photos. Dave took some decent shots which wer e posted in a previous post.

Food at the hotel that night and a few beers

Monday morning was a lie in as the track wasnt open until 1. Did a few steady laps in the afternoon and tehn it started to rain! I have never had so much fun in a car. The track was empty and we were flying! The diff was generating so much traction in the wet. We did about 6 laps one after the other in the rain and it was brilliant. We basically had the track to ourselves. It was a very good way of learning the track!

Started back home 09:00 Tuesday and got home about 23:30 which wasnt fun!

So the Golf survived 1600 miles including 25 laps of the Ring and I'm never ever going to sell it! :D
 
Thats the spirit !! :D

Glad its coming together at last. All thats left is this High boost thing isn't it?.....oh and the OTHER project ;)

It feels together now :D I'm going to adjust the suspension to make it a little softer for the road and fit a higher rated fuel pump for safety and then get it mapped for high boost.

Other project will restart the weekend! ;)
 
Little update on this one:

Golf was remapped on Saturday, a little bit of timing was pulled where it was detting and the boost control was tightened up as it was overshooting at high revs.

Using high boost is interesting to say the least, wheelspin on demand up to 3rd! God knows what it would be like without the diff. Suprised a few things on the way home. The way it pulls is silly, it feels quicker than my old scooby :D

I dont think it will make more power than I did at the last RR day but at least I can use it safely now!
 
Well now that high boost is sorted we can stamp this project....

FINISHED

Time for the thanks to part:

Bob - Best assistant ever, didn't complain once about being shouted at and bossed about, came up with lots of sensible solutions when my head was scrambled! Couldnt have done it without you mate :)

Leon - For all those MSN chats and general support and opinions after test drives!

Tony - For all the parts and support, It's all your fault I started

Tony P - For all the spanner skills

Gareth - Your tea making skills are superb ;)

Mum and Dad - For letting me use their garage and keeping us all fed!

Elfyn - For running about sorting parts out and the last minute prep work

Gavin, Lisa, Oly, Sam and Mark J for doing things I couldn't.

Everyone on OcUK - Seriously guys without all of your posts I would have given up at one point. When that first engine went I nearly gave up, all your posts made me get out and carry on. Group hug!


Thanks everyone we created an animal :D
 
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[TW]Fox;10512582 said:
I hate Golfs. I hate old cars even more. And I hate stupid 4 cylinder engines.

But the fact I absolutely LOVE your Golf speaks volumes. What a project. What a guy! :D

Thanks Fox, you must come for a spin in it one day ;)
 
It's not bad at all on smooth roads, bumpy ones need some concentration. It will be sorted soon, I have some plans! ;)
 
8k really? wow

That includes £700 for a duff engine!

Car was £700, coilovers were £1000, 2nd engine £950, ECU £1100, diff and g'box £750 it soon adds up!

Thinking about it it was probably more than 8k :o

You could do it a lot cheaper, but I wanted to do it "right" the first time! :)

PS I havent forgotten about the mirrors for you, just been a little busy.
 
So, by finished, you meant nearly finished? :p :D

It will never be finished ;)

Thread revival and an update:

A few more bits arrived today that I need to fit before a track day on the 20th.

Oil temps were a little higher than I'd like on the last ring trip so I've decided to fit an Oil cooler.

Cooler, pipes and sandwich plate:

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Oil cooler mounted in front of intercooler

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Sandwich plate fitted and a shorter Polo oil filter used, the original 1.8T one wouldn't go on due to the cross member being in the way.

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Pipes supplied in the kit weren't long enough so off to get some longer ones made up.

I've just fitted some Toyo R888s and was worried about oil starvation around corners so I ordered a baffled sump from Jabbasport.

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These gates only open one way and keep the oil around the pick up during cornering

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More to follow later after getting some pipes made up and getting some sealant for the sump.

The "To do List" is as follows

Oil cooler
Sump
Brake pads
Rear wheel bearings
Service it
Clean it!!
 
Mate you got any plans of another ring trip i need another ride, i wana see what its like now with the new bits and remap, awesome job.

Should be over late August or early September, I'll let you know.

Got some pipes made up, oil cooler now finished

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I think I'll spray it black, silver stands out too much compared to the rest of the car!

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Just taken it for a quick test drive, oil temps are about 10-15 degrees lower. Cruising it now sits at about 86-90 compared to 98-104 before. Will be interesting to see how high they will get on track.
 
I agree spray it black, this is an awesome thread!

Would you say that the air filter you have on is much better than the standard box (noise/performance)? Have you got a cold feed up to it?

....and last but not least how much did it cost :D

It's never had a standard airbox. It has a cold air feed from the front bumper where the fog light used to be.

Cost no idea, but it was worth every penny :D (see update below)

Did an open pit lane day at Anglesey yesterday, had so much fun. It seemed to suprise a lot of cars that just wouldnt pull to the side when I caught them up. One guy in the carpark asked what I had under the bonnet as he couldn't understand why the E46 M3 wasnt pulling away from me lap after lap!

It's awesome to drive on track, so planted and goes round corners very very well, it was cornering faster than most of the Elises there.

New oil cooler is working very well, didn't see higher than 108 degrees C even after staying out on track for 40 minutes! :D I also fitted a single headlamp grill to aid cooling.

Feredo DS2500 brake pads were awesome, didnt fade once. Front disks will need replacing as they were a bit grumbly by the end.

Few pictures:

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That Atom just wouldnt move to the side when I caught him!

One video



Cant wait for the next one, it all finally makes sense now!

Project thread now re opened, expect a roll cage and a few choice mods soon!
 
Whats the map running now in terms of bhp and torque? Did you ever get the "high boost" sorted?

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High boost was sorted before the last RR day, it made 262bhp and 285lbft at Powerstation.

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Err, played! :p

Seriously mate, it's a fantastic build, you should be very proud :) I take it you're planning on keeping it for a while?

Yes going to keep it. Planning to mod it further now. I'm going to enjoy it over the summer as it is and then rebuild it over winter.

More More I want to see.................................. MORE!!

Ive just been reading the whole thread from page 1 finally now at the end but I didnt see an interior shot of when u had finished? did i miss it?

I don't think I've posted any shots of the interior actually, will get some taken tomorrow along with the new grill.
 
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