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My GSYNC experiences
- Thread starter James J
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So is a dual core cpu or amd 4x more than one? Lol
Regarding the price...probably about the 20th time I've had to explain it on these forums alone...
The current 24" Asus gsync unit available is an in house diy job. The monitors are retail - no gsync. The retailer (we all know who that is) voids the manufacturers warranty and fits an aftermarket scaling unit from nvidia containing gsync tech. The retailer then covers the monitor with their own warranty and will likely take a hit should it become defective.
The huge bump in cost is down to essentially paying for the aftermarket module from nvidia, man hours fitting and testing it and likely some warranty premium on top.
In short what is available now is not a retail gsync unit.
When retail units hit costs will be lower, much much lower. Even Gibbo said benq gsync units may only be £20-30 more then a non-gsync unit.
The current 24" Asus gsync unit available is an in house diy job. The monitors are retail - no gsync. The retailer (we all know who that is) voids the manufacturers warranty and fits an aftermarket scaling unit from nvidia containing gsync tech. The retailer then covers the monitor with their own warranty and will likely take a hit should it become defective.
The huge bump in cost is down to essentially paying for the aftermarket module from nvidia, man hours fitting and testing it and likely some warranty premium on top.
In short what is available now is not a retail gsync unit.
When retail units hit costs will be lower, much much lower. Even Gibbo said benq gsync units may only be £20-30 more then a non-gsync unit.
I was talking about the aftermarket units themselves, as there really isn't anywhere near $200 worth of anything on them.
Companies foolishly slap premiums on things for no rational reason, just like the 295X2 and its obscene price, I don't understand who AMD thought would buy one at nearly 3x the price of a 290X and 4x+ the price of a 290.
Companies foolishly slap premiums on things for no rational reason, just like the 295X2 and its obscene price, I don't understand who AMD thought would buy one at nearly 3x the price of a 290X and 4x+ the price of a 290.
Isn't the ROG Swift nearing Vapourware status?
It's certainly looking that way
Regarding the price...probably about the 20th time I've had to explain it on these forums alone...
The current 24" Asus gsync unit available is an in house diy job. The monitors are retail - no gsync. The retailer (we all know who that is) voids the manufacturers warranty and fits an aftermarket scaling unit from nvidia containing gsync tech. The retailer then covers the monitor with their own warranty and will likely take a hit should it become defective.
The huge bump in cost is down to essentially paying for the aftermarket module from nvidia, man hours fitting and testing it and likely some warranty premium on top.
In short what is available now is not a retail gsync unit.
When retail units hit costs will be lower, much much lower. Even Gibbo said benq gsync units may only be £20-30 more then a non-gsync unit.
Correct on all points. My asus monitor has none of its guts remaining inside it and instead is replaced by a custom job gsync module. It even displays as an nvidia monitor in the device list and even is OSD.
Isn't the ROG Swift nearing Vapourware status?
Big time!!
The modules aren't mass produced so you are also paying a premium on the availability of them. They've sold out in northern america, which is their only current market for the stand alone unit, plus they have no ETA on the second round of stock yet either. Sadly for consumers, there is nothing like this technology out on the market today, so you'll be paying a premium just for the privilege in the first place.
However, having said that, would I pay £450 for this setup again? Definitely. The colours and blacks on the monitor really aren't bad, sure not IPS standard, yet very good for TN. The input lag is none existant and the gsync technology really is refreshing in the games it works seamlessly with, which is most of them on the market.
My advice is, don't write it off without trying it, as you'd be a fool to proclaim an opinion otherwise. I don't mean that offensively, I'm just pointing out that this is definitely something you need to experience first hand, as no review or graph will tell you the true story and videos can't realistically capture what happens on screen either as you are still watching it on a normal monitor.
I will concede that I don't like the idea of TN, but I haven't used a modern TN so I have no idea just how they compare to IPS nowadays.
However, for me, resolution and image quality are a priority over something like G-Sync, though again because I haven't used or experienced it, it's an assumption, however it is based on the fact that for me, I use my monitors primarily for graphics, photography or website work over playing games, so resolution and colour accuracy are prime there for me.
Though I would love to see what those 4K TN panels are like, as people seem to be saying the same thing you've said about this monitor, they are very very good for TN panels.
I definitely wouldn't use a TN panel, including this one, for colour critical work, so you'll be stuck with IPS for the foreseeable future sadly. I'd also like to see the samsung 4k panel that greg owns in the flesh, but his video review really turned me off 4k if I'm honest due to the res having a negative effect on how easy websites and various programs are to read. Precision for example was unreadable on it and offers no scaling option, so you are forced to lowering the res on the desktop.
GSYNC is definitely a hard sell, but if someone tries it on a game like BF4, its very easily justifiable. OcUK really needs to get a demo system on display in the shop so people can see first hand.
I found people made the same claims about 2560x1440, but I find the text more than readable on anything I've used, so I can't imagine the text on a 28" 4K display to be unreadable for me, so I would imagine it's mostly down to the individual.
However, I would still prefer something bigger than 28, as it's not really much of an increase over 27".
But yeah, it will be IPS for the foreseeable future. I'm hoping that once Apple start producing their iMacs and cinema displays with 4K IPS panels, that some 4K equivalents of those cheap Korean monitors pop up, and I will be all over 3 of them.
I've come from a 1440p IPS monitor to this one. I also agree that 4k really needs a physically larger monitor than 28 inches.
Probably quite a good analogy to be honest. People think that they have a good experience with vsync off and can't see tearing due to playing at 144hz, but theres definitely a positive difference in clarity and smoothness of the image with gsync enabled regardless.
Try find some 240 fps video of vsync on, vsync off and gsync on if you can, as you'll see how gsync works, just not get the actual experience from it. Basically a better, more stable image with no stuttering than vsync, with the input lag of vsync off, but without the tearing. Best of both worlds.