My mate says I am polluting

Mrwong said:
During our conversation, I told him I no longer shop in London, this includes food shopping. I told him I drive 7 or 8 miles away from west London to food shops etc. He asks why? told him the constant amount of driving restrictions linked to fines, I no longer want to support businesses in my area or adjacent. He said that I am creating extra pollution, I find it much cheaper to drive away from my local area.


Your thoughts?
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I don't drive, i buy everything over the internet and get it delivered to me at the house or work.
 
Thekwango said:
is this true?
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I saw cyclists jump red lights and get smashed by a car.nothing the driver could do. I gave the police my dashcam
And statement as evidence, the cyclist lied.
After giving my statement after it was request, the police told me it was becoming common place.
 
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Thekwango said:
is this true?
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In collisions involving a bicycle and another vehicle, the most common key contributory factor recorded by the
police is ‘failed to look properly’ by either the driver or rider, especially at junctions. ‘Failed to look properly’
was attributed to the car driver in 57% of serious collisions and to the cyclist in 43% of serious collisions at
junctions

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jon86 said:
Where are you looking to emigrate to?
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I really hope it is either Amsterdam or a suburb of Houston, Texas for opposite reasons.
 
Trifid said:
I really hope it is either Amsterdam or a suburb of Houston, Texas for opposite reasons.
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mrwong mentioned earlier in the thread that it's a 24 hour city with good weather, so my guess is that it's no where near the USA, and is likely somewhere in Europe. The major cities in Asia aren't necessarily known for good weather either, so I am doubtful that it's in Asia.
 
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Mrwong said:
I saw cyclists jump red lights and get smashed by a car.nothing the driver could do. I gave the police my dashcam
And statement as evidence, the cyclist lied.
After giving my statement after it was request, the police told me it was becoming common place.
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what was becoming common place? cyclists lying, or crashing or jumping red lights?
Trifid said:

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In collisions involving a bicycle and another vehicle, the most common key contributory factor recorded by the
police is ‘failed to look properly’ by either the driver or rider, especially at junctions. ‘Failed to look properly’
was attributed to the car driver in 57% of serious collisions and to the cyclist in 43% of serious collisions at
junctions

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so no not true then. much as i dislike cyclists i did think it was a bit weird to claim most of their deaths were their own fault.
 
Thekwango said:
what was becoming common place? cyclists lying, or crashing or jumping red lights?

so no not true then. much as i dislike cyclists i did think it was a bit weird to claim most of their deaths were their own fault.
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The cyclist lied to the police, dash cam provide real time evidence.
Cyclist said he never jumped the red lights can footage showed like were red for a good while.

The police said increasing amount of bike accidents are because of cyclists.

What is recorded in stats is what each charity likes to document.
 
Mrwong said:
The police said increasing amount of bike accidents are because of cyclists.
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but still not the majority cause of their deaths? so no, your claim is not correct, as i asked. unless you've more evidence other than what some copper mentioned to you.
 
Thekwango said:
but still not the majority cause of their deaths? so no, your claim is not correct, as i asked. unless you've more evidence other than what some copper mentioned to you.
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The report looks at what’s recorded,
57% drivers in serious collision 43% cyclists. Fact more cars use the road than bikes when you start to take that into account the percentage of bikes is very high.

Provide me evidenced how they worked out the 57% and 43%.

What type sample calculation did did they use, was the sample bias, were the researchers bias in their analysis.

What type of methods used to collect the data.

It is very easy to choose what you want to analyse in stats.


Cyclist fatalities on British roads rose by 40% in 2020, says DfT​


The number of cyclists killed on British roads increased by 40% in 2020, official statistics show, with cycling groups saying an increase in dangerous driving could have cancelled out the safety dividend from fewer cars on the roads amid lockdown.



yes, there were fewer cars but more bike accidents, and the magic words could have, very scientific the words could have.
 
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Mrwong said:
The report looks at what’s recorded,
57% drivers in serious collision 43% cyclists. Fact more cars use the road then bikes when you start to take that into account the percentage of bikes is very high.
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not sure what you're telling me here. all i've asked is there evidence to prove that the majority of cyclists deaths are caused by their disregard for road safety and lack of use of brakes or are you making that up?
 
As someone who uses the TfL network every day this thread has me confused. Try going to other cities or even countries, sure there's signal delays and other random issues but a train almost every 5 or so minutes and a bus nearly every 10 minutes, with the ease of paying via contactless is much better than other places.
 
Thekwango said:
not sure what you're telling me here. all i've asked is there evidence to prove that the majority of cyclists deaths are caused by their disregard for road safety and lack of use of brakes or are you making that up?
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www.cyclingnorthwales.uk

Cycling and Kinetic Energy - why riders are reluctant to stop. - Cycling North Wales

Former technical officer of the Cyclists Touring Club (CTC) (now CyclingUK) Chris Juden investigates here the principles of dynamics and motion that discourage us from necessarily coming to a halt. So here we go…… start pedalling. You may find … Read More
www.cyclingnorthwales.uk www.cyclingnorthwales.uk
 
Trifid said:

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In collisions involving a bicycle and another vehicle, the most common key contributory factor recorded by the
police is ‘failed to look properly’ by either the driver or rider, especially at junctions. ‘Failed to look properly’
was attributed to the car driver in 57% of serious collisions and to the cyclist in 43% of serious collisions at
junctions

"
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Thekwango said:
What’s that got to do with the claim you made?
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Reports are designed to fit in with the agenda, currently the agenda cyclists.

Charities do not provide independent reports, they provide reports for their existence to continue.

and the magic word "could" does not mean it is a fact, therefore we can disregard that report.
 
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