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my new 2070 Super giving same performance as my old rx580?

Brazo said:
That’s all well and good but Ryzen does just dandy in numerous pro benchmarks so somethings a little strange would you not agree?
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No, I would not agree. :D

Pro benchmarks don't always tell the whole story. Ryzen CPUs are very good and I have both 2600 and 2600X. I used to have a 1600 with a 1080 Ti and the same monitor as Lloydcars18.

Played the same games as well and those two in particular were the reason I upgraded to a 8700K. This debate has been done already in previous discussions.
 
Davanius said:
No, I would not agree. :D

Pro benchmarks don't always tell the whole story. Ryzen CPUs are very good and I have both 2600 and 2600X. I used to have a 1600 with a 1080 Ti and the same monitor as Lloydcars18.

Played the same games as well and those two in particular were the reason I upgraded to a 8700K. This debate has been done already in previous discussions.
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I’m rocking a 2700x so yes I know they are good. I’m not disputing your or others findings I’m just surprised Pro benchmarks suggest the complete opposite so let’s just say I’m curious to discover what’s causing such a gulf in results.
 
lloydcars18 said:
We really need someone with a 1700 and something around the same power as my 2070 Super and see what fps they get?
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I told you mate, I had a 1600 at 3.9 Ghz and a 1080 Ti which is a touch faster than a 2070 Super. The extra 2 cores on a 1700 won't make a real difference in most games.

Destiny 2 and Gears 4 suffer a bit on Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series to an extent. 3000 series Ryzen is on point.

For those of us who stick to budgets, it's hard to take when you realise that you now have a CPU bottleneck after spending on a card.

I'm gonna bail out now until you get your cooler and overclock. Don't expect miracles though.:)
 
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Brazo said:
I’m rocking a 2700x so yes I know they are good. I’m not disputing your or others findings I’m just surprised Pro benchmarks suggest the complete opposite so let’s just say I’m curious to discover what’s causing such a gulf in results.
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I think they were all testing the beginning of the game which is singleplayer mission but the majority of the game is multiplayer.
 
Yeah some games with mp despite how good ur comp can be can be limited by their servers and how many scripts are going off on it, arma 3 is especially like this.

Btw forgive if u said but when u did DDU to remove amd drivers and maybe any really old nvidia drivers if u had a nvidia card before ur amd one, did you do it in safe mode or normal windows?
 
The first time when I installed it I did it in safe mode but it installed the driver twice one for each monitor second time wouldn't let me run safe mode for some reason as would black screen so did it in normal.
 
z10m said:
I think they were all testing the beginning of the game which is singleplayer mission but the majority of the game is multiplayer.
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That and they were using the beta. Neither afterburner or fraps work in d2 (no overlay).

Afterburner does work in the background but only for alt tabbing.

As I put in my original post it sounds very much like the gpu is not hitting full utilisation.

Quick test is to increase render scale to 125 or 150%. If it is a cpu bottleneck then the gpu utilisation should go up and the framerate will not really move.

This is exactly what I observed when I went from a different 1080ti to a 2080ti @1440p using a Ryzen 2700. Increase render scale to 125% in my case made no difference to framerate indicating my gpu was not being fully utilised.

Now I am on a 3900x the framerate has gone up noticeably in areas where before it was down.
 
Davanius said:
I told you mate, I had a 1600 at 3.9 Ghz and a 1080 Ti which is a touch faster than a 2070 Super. The extra 2 cores on a 1700 won't make a real difference in most games.

Destiny 2 and Gears 4 suffer a bit on Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series to an extent. 3000 series Ryzen is on point.

For those of us who stick to budgets, it's hard to take when you realise that you now have a CPU bottleneck after spending on a card.

I'm gonna bail out now until you get your cooler and overclock. Don't expect miracles though.:)
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FC5 is a another, while multi threaded most the rendering load is on a single thread. Its why Ryzen gen 1 and 2 is so far behind something like a 8700/9900k. 3rd Gen gets closer but theirs still a gap
 
Maybe try using this instead of ddu https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-601 and use nvidias remove drivers method too then reboot a few times then try these drivers instead of nvidias drivers page ones. https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Graphics-Card/GV-N207SAORUS-8GC/support#support-dl-driver which i presume is ur card.

And remove any cpu and gpu oc for testing then try d2 for a bit.

Btw in cpuz can u show us what ur ram is telling u, the memory and spd tabs and might as well do the first cpu tab too as screenie to show, just wana check how it is on ur comp.

Oh and is there any chance u can do a snapshot of d2 ingame settings as well.
 
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What is your gpu utilisation in various places in the game:

Tower
Titan spawn
Trostland spawn
Dreaming city spawn

(Spawn in and alt tab to look at msi afterburner).

I would expect low gpu utilisation in all but the dreaming city.
 
As Oweneades said its cpu bound specially the tower, I have a 2080 OC which boosts to 1960 playing D2 yet still goes down to the low 70s even high 60s when the tower is quite full.
If I'm doing a mission on my own my framerate jumps right up averaging about 130- 144 (frame cap on) but soon I go into a public area it drops again.

Will be upgrading my cpu soon.
 
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