I hope we're talking motec for that price!
My new weekend toy - Supra TT :-)
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I hope we're talking motec for that price!
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I have a Svecs S6 Plus here, with sensors, awaiting me popping it in a VVTi Tiptronic twin turbo Supra It will be intended to control the twin sequential turbos, the fly by wire throttle, the flappy paddle Tiptronic auto box, and all other engine functions like sequential 6 cylinder injection and coil on plug ignition. Plus it can run a digi dash by CAN BUS, read GPS and will read a load of other info like wide band Lambda and exhaust EGT's
£2500 is quite middle of the road for a good ECU swap these days. The above is FAR more than that in total.
Personally I prefer MOTEC and EFI Technology, but Syvecs have something of a niche market with Supra owners
£2500 is quite middle of the road for a good ECU swap these days. The above is FAR more than that in total.
Personally I prefer MOTEC and EFI Technology, but Syvecs have something of a niche market with Supra owners
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PowerFC's are for manual Supras only and are about 15 years out of date. Most bling wrist watches have more processing power, although joking aside, they can be to made work fairly well. I have one mapped on a customer's R33GTR and it's kind of OK...ish.
Its a syvecs, but they can be control to reduce the amount of torque going through the box at gear changes. Most of the traders on the forum are using their ECU. The only down side is that they cost a fortune and there are limited amount of tuners. There ECUs are used in cars from Focus RS to twin turbo Lambos etc
what he said^
Name me some people who can do it for less?
Absolutely superb work on that engine bay and the car is looking immense. I love how a clean Supra still looks like a modern car on the road. Aged extremely well.
Thanks Gibbo. Not many modern cars do it for me at the moment and ive always liked the look and not many stock blocks are rated for big power...Have you got your super charger on yet? I haven't kept up with your thread, ill have to have a look for it later.
I would recognise that wonky IC anywhere!!
https://youtu.be/2e_htGVuGIM?t=1m27s
https://youtu.be/2e_htGVuGIM?t=1m27s
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Lol still? After all the money he's spent on it elsewhere....
Update 03/04/2014
I installed a Greddy OLED boost controller that I bought from a supra member
On the 31st of March, I met some local supra members and the lad who helped me install the BC. We went on a private road to get some video footage of all our cars and just to see if the BC was working. We joined the private road and began lining up and put our foot down.... I got up to 1.2BAR and hit the speedo limiter at sillyMPH. As I let off I could hear a strange noise coming from what I thought was the charcoal cannister, we immediately pulled up to a safe place to investigate. The noise got worse as we pulled up, sounded like a bag of spanners in a washing machine:blink:
After further investigation we found out it was the crank pulley had broken?? By feeling it.....We decided to get the car recovered rather than drive it home...
I have managed to take some videos of it this weekend and pictures below :blink:
The crank pulley, timing belt was replaced under 2 years ago with a new after market replacement, I have only done less than 10k on this too and ragged the shizz outta the car too during that time.
Hopefully nothing major is damaged as a result of this, this weekend coming is my birthday and I had planned to take the car to santapod / dyno run with the Midlands supra members
You can see where it knocked onto making the noise I heard^^^
Bought an OEM crank Pulley, cam seals and a crank pulley seal thanks to TCB parts. They came a few days after....
With the help of Iky and Ric, stripped the car removing the cam covers and replacing the cam seals and then moving onto the crank pulley. We didn't attempt to change the crank seal as its a pain to do and did not have the correct tools to put it back.
Picked up a timing belt lower cover from toyota to replace the one that the crank tore into.
Managed to get everything back together and running on Saturday the 9th just in time for my birthday the following day, the initial plan was to go to the dyno day or fast show but the car wasn't even run to see if there were any other issues so decided to take the 60 mile trip to my mrs which it made
and the following morning we decided to go to the lakes. The car seemed to be running well but I wasn't pushing the car as I didn't want it to break down so kept it under 1BAR where possible :dGot to the lakes in one peace and when leaving the car park from Lunch managed to graze my front driver side rim on a kerb, I was paying too much attention not to graze the rears!
Here are some pics from the lakes, ill post a video once I get the time to edit parts.
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In prep for Japfest completed the following work...
Before
After
Just need to fit my carbon engine bay boxes and give it a clean then thats all done under the bonnet apart from replacing my rad clamps and getting a carbon cooling plate eventually.
- Managed to paint the back of the engine
- fit my Whifbitz carbon spark plug cover thanks to Berg
- Bodyshop painted my strut brace in gloss black
- New radiator hose jubby SS clips
- Wrapped the wire junction with black tape by the water kneck
- Ive wrapped various looms and pipes with computer cable tidy to neaten things up
- I also replaced the bonnet hinge bolts with new as mine were a mixture of red and had odd bolts in
Before
After
Just need to fit my carbon engine bay boxes and give it a clean then thats all done under the bonnet apart from replacing my rad clamps and getting a carbon cooling plate eventually.
Japfest 24th APR
I made it to japfest, we had a very early start at 4am and managed to get to Silverstone at 7am! luckily it gave us enough time to clean the cars as the roads were wet all the way down (whole day wasted cleaning the car the day prior). I did the best I could do with what I had with me. Thanks to Ric for letting me borrow some of his cleaning stuff
Some what happy with my car now, its not perfect but Ill be holding off the modifications now till next year (if I can help myself) and just driving and enjoying the car and just tidying and STRAIGHTENING out bits
Pictures (we won best club stand )
I made it to japfest, we had a very early start at 4am and managed to get to Silverstone at 7am! luckily it gave us enough time to clean the cars as the roads were wet all the way down (whole day wasted cleaning the car the day prior)
. I did the best I could do with what I had with me. Thanks to Ric for letting me borrow some of his cleaning stuff Some what happy with my car now, its not perfect but Ill be holding off the modifications now till next year (if I can help myself) and just driving and enjoying the car and just tidying and STRAIGHTENING out bits
Pictures (we won best club stand
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Managed to get the car out and finally take the roof off for the first time this year! yes it was cold but the sun was out. Roll on summer!
Attended a Yorkshire Jap Car meet at squires in Leeds, it was very busy.... met some local supra owners and even some new owners.
Here are a few pictures of mine from the meet...
On the way back had a right blast, I was testing my BC which I was too afraid of using on the way to japfest LOL
Hit 1.3 bar, the car pulls like a train! a massive difference from 1.1 BAR, easily 400 horse power (dyno required to confirm)
Managed to leave a CLA45AMG for dead, his face was priceless :d
Attended a Yorkshire Jap Car meet at squires in Leeds, it was very busy.... met some local supra owners and even some new owners.
Here are a few pictures of mine from the meet...
On the way back had a right blast, I was testing my BC which I was too afraid of using on the way to japfest LOL
Hit 1.3 bar, the car pulls like a train! a massive difference from 1.1 BAR, easily 400 horse power (dyno required to confirm)
Managed to leave a CLA45AMG for dead, his face was priceless :d
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Japfest 24th APR
That grey Supra is probably the nicest I've ever seen, it's perfect.
mmmmmkk, doubtful you would leave one of these for "dead", rapid cars, and if you did how did you manage to see the expression on his face while you were so far out in front?
I like the tuna here....
Car is looking great, bad news on the crank pulley, always best to stick with factory part there especially if it was balanced at factory to your engine.
Not supercharged yet, my plan is to buy a Whipple in black friday sales as the kit I want is around $8000, so if I can get 20-30% saving it is a considerable discount, this kit is then good for 650-1000BHP, but I shall be looking to start around 650 simply as I'd like to have power I can use.
I will be changing my crank pulley for the SC kit but will be using an ATI damper which is as heavy as stock if not heavier and cost like $500 but Ford and Whipple recommend it to reduce harmful harmonics.
The beauty is I can buy the base kit if need be ($7000) which is good for a UK 650 horses and then if I want more I can simply add the larger TB, dual fans, injectors, smaller pulley at a later date which takes it to around 750-800 horses for around $1500.
I shall be sticking with Whipples tune (less power) but is safe and has fancy software to reduce power in lower gears and a load of other options I can change on the fly in the ECU using their software and cable on my laptop. Of course custom tuning releases a lot of additional power but your then into 800-900 horsepower territory and you lose the safety features and that does not interest me. Drive ability, reliability and usable power are more important than a few more extra horses for bragging rights.
Not supercharged yet, my plan is to buy a Whipple in black friday sales as the kit I want is around $8000, so if I can get 20-30% saving it is a considerable discount, this kit is then good for 650-1000BHP, but I shall be looking to start around 650 simply as I'd like to have power I can use.
I will be changing my crank pulley for the SC kit but will be using an ATI damper which is as heavy as stock if not heavier and cost like $500 but Ford and Whipple recommend it to reduce harmful harmonics.
The beauty is I can buy the base kit if need be ($7000) which is good for a UK 650 horses and then if I want more I can simply add the larger TB, dual fans, injectors, smaller pulley at a later date which takes it to around 750-800 horses for around $1500.
I shall be sticking with Whipples tune (less power) but is safe and has fancy software to reduce power in lower gears and a load of other options I can change on the fly in the ECU using their software and cable on my laptop. Of course custom tuning releases a lot of additional power but your then into 800-900 horsepower territory and you lose the safety features and that does not interest me. Drive ability, reliability and usable power are more important than a few more extra horses for bragging rights.
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VERY few engines of mass produced cars are balanced as a rotating assembly. The rotating parts are balanced individually, for example the damper will be balanced on a mandrel far away from the crankshaft it will eventually be mated to. These Chinese, Bulgarian or whatever copies LOOK similar, but probably have very inferior metallurgical properties and poor elastomeric properties. But the price is appealing and they look like OE parts. Caveat emptor...
I am not in favour of the generic balancers like the ATI one, and unless the engine is radically modified with changes to the crank, bore and stroke would always want to use an OEM one. OEM ones are tuned to specific peaks of torsional vibration and their harmonics. ATI ones are generic and just have broad spectrum vibration absorption. They do not enough mass to do this well. the de facto broad spectrum damper was that used by Duesenberg in the thirties, a mercury filled damper of significant diameter and mass. Current `elf `n' safety and the Green brigade would have a fit
I am not in favour of the generic balancers like the ATI one, and unless the engine is radically modified with changes to the crank, bore and stroke would always want to use an OEM one. OEM ones are tuned to specific peaks of torsional vibration and their harmonics. ATI ones are generic and just have broad spectrum vibration absorption. They do not enough mass to do this well. the de facto broad spectrum damper was that used by Duesenberg in the thirties, a mercury filled damper of significant diameter and mass. Current `elf `n' safety and the Green brigade would have a fit
VERY few engines of mass produced cars are balanced as a rotating assembly. The rotating parts are balanced individually, for example the damper will be balanced on a mandrel far away from the crankshaft it will eventually be mated to. These Chinese, Bulgarian or whatever copies LOOK similar, but probably have very inferior metallurgical properties and poor elastomeric properties. But the price is appealing and they look like OE parts. Caveat emptor...
I am not in favour of the generic balancers like the ATI one, and unless the engine is radically modified with changes to the crank, bore and stroke would always want to use an OEM one. OEM ones are tuned to specific peaks of torsional vibration and their harmonics. ATI ones are generic and just have broad spectrum vibration absorption. They do not enough mass to do this well. the de facto broad spectrum damper was that used by Duesenberg in the thirties, a mercury filled damper of significant diameter and mass. Current `elf `n' safety and the Green brigade would have a fit
On the Mustang, it is Ford themselves who approved the ATI and recommend its use when either revving beyond 7000rpm and upto 8500rpm or when adding power adder.
The ATI damper also comes fitted as standard on the Ford cobra jet mustangs as the stock factory crank pulley is designed for the engine as Ford ship it, once FI or higher RPM's are used then ATI damper is recommended and used by Ford themselves.
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Still don't like them, they are just broadband, a cheap kludge rather than re-evaluating the crank harmonics when running higher RPM or running more torque, and building a different damper or even using a different crank counterweighting regime.
Good article here that doesn't get too bogged down in the maths.
http://www.bhjdynamics.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=4
Good article here that doesn't get too bogged down in the maths.
http://www.bhjdynamics.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=4