So the thread has climaxed with a realisation that you do indeed just have a load of stuff using leccy in your house. I'm not sure how I feel about my time investment into this thread now.
[Mystery] £400-600 monthly home electricity bill with Octopus
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So the thread has climaxed with a realisation that you do indeed just have a load of stuff using leccy in your house. I'm not sure how I feel about my time investment into this thread now.
So the thread has climaxed with a realisation that you do indeed just have a load of stuff using leccy in your house. I'm not sure how I feel about my time investment into this thread now.
Think of poor me, I was just plugging along and accepting it. Then people here were telling me something is absolutely wrong in the house, someone is stealing my leccy or there's a fault somewhere as there's no possible way I could actually be using this much! Now I'm £80 lighter, although at least I have some peace of mind haha.
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hot water recirculation pump could be costing more money in electricity than it is saving in wasted water.
Its definitely a nice convenience to have though
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but aren't you £600 a year better off also ?
How many hours was the electric guy at your property to charge £80?
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15 mins
Going rate these days, call out/first hour charge.
Plus those tuts, sucking air through teeth and head scratches require considerable training.
All jokes aside, maybe I've been lucky but electricians seem to be the nicest of the trades to deal with.
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I'll be as nice as you like if you are paying me £80 an hour
Most trades won't even pick up the phone for that in my experienceI'll be as nice as you like if you are paying me £80 an hour
They aren’t being ‘paid’ £80 an hour, I’d be gobsmacked if they even earned anything like that amount after everything.I'll be as nice as you like if you are paying me £80 an hour
Huge chunks of time is non-chargeable (quotes, travel, lead generation, getting materials, holidays(!)) VAT, general overheads, tools, van, professional subscriptions, ongoing learning/courses etc etc.
I find it hard that trades like electricians could operate without being VAT registered these days.
£90k is nothing in terms of the turnover of a business. At £80/ hour, that’s only 93 chargeable hours per month without factoring in the supply of any materials.
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That electrician has done well! £80 out of you plus the money from your neighbor to convince you they aren't stealing your leccy!
Materiels are paid by the customer though? I guess you mean tools and vehicles etc?
If they are supplied by the trader, which they will be most of the time for a sparky, they will count towards your VAT threshold calculation.
But they add a % margin on the purchase price so I can't feel sorry for them
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So of our fairly constant 1.2kW load
about 600W is just the boiler/plant room with all the pumps etc.
And ~600W is just the stuff plugged into sockets, namely fridges, freezers, dishwashers, dryers, washing machines, TVs etc.
I switched over to Intelligent Octopus Go yesterday, and we'll try and shift as much usage as we can to night time hours.
And other than that, just time to start saving for solar I guess.
I figure if we get 3x Tesla Powerwall 3s that would allow me to store ~40kW of power. I could generate this myself with panels in summar, or via cheap overnight charging in winter. 40kW isn't enough to supply our full daily use, but it'll do the majority. And I've heard the panels themselves are really cheap now, so it's going to be, what, 25k for a system? If I save ~3-4k a year it'll pay for itself decently quickly.
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Right now you still charge in the summer overnight. You pull in at go rate, lets say 6p and you can export to the grid later when its being generated at 15p.
Subject to change of course, but no point not charging when you can export later, if you generate an excess, for a higher amount.
Risk that your grid limited but it doesn't apply to that many people in reality
As you have a plant room I would think that maybe Tesla isn't the best solution.
Drop into the solar and battery thread and ask about fogstar.
Eg 2x these would be 60kwh for £12k, but you need the space which it sounds like you may well have
www.fogstar.co.uk
Are you on three phase already or just normal domestic?
Anyway, best in the proper thread.
Subject to change of course, but no point not charging when you can export later, if you generate an excess, for a higher amount.
Risk that your grid limited but it doesn't apply to that many people in reality
As you have a plant room I would think that maybe Tesla isn't the best solution.
Drop into the solar and battery thread and ask about fogstar.
Eg 2x these would be 60kwh for £12k, but you need the space which it sounds like you may well have
Fogstar Energy 30kWh 48V Rack Battery Bundle
30kWh 48v Rack Battery Lithium (LiFePO4) heating, pre-loaded inverter protocols, LCD touch screen, Grade A EVE Cells, a DC Rated Breaker and an 8 year warranty.
www.fogstar.co.uk
Are you on three phase already or just normal domestic?
Anyway, best in the proper thread.
But at least you now have a thorough understanding of your electrical system, and what uses watts. It has been known for neighbours to steal electric, so was a valid possibility.
If your with Nationwide for your mortgage you can get the installation cost added to your mortgage interest free, other lenders will give £2k cash back, so check your options.
There shouldn't be any resistance if there's nothing plugged in at the other end. Even a phone charger left plugged in won't use any energy if there's no device connected to it.
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