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Yep.... anyone who has experienced the NHS lately will be able to see it's hard to pretend it's still working....
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Yep.... anyone who has experienced the NHS lately will be able to see it's hard to pretend it's still working....
Soldato
It will save around 1% depending on your personal circumstances , around £450 a year .
Another NI cut is total bonkers , its fiscal drag and inflation that's killing everyone's pockets . We don't need any tax cuts just an adjustment in personal allowances , a tax levying on energy companies , non dom tax satuts abolished,
As far as the NHS is concerned its an out of date system that is now obviously destined to fail and to a degree needs a a total revamp. If I visted he U.S would i get any free healthcare ? Err no .
The NHS Is a route of a lot of evil in this country, make what you want of that - yes i call it as i see it , one of the major reasons for immigration, free healthcare ! And it won't get any better, look at the state of Dentistry in the UK , I think you will find a lot of non essential services supplied by the NHS will slowly be going private and in time anything other than essential surgery or anything trauma based will be covered by insurance.
It's clear to see we just can't afford it.
Another NI cut is total bonkers , its fiscal drag and inflation that's killing everyone's pockets . We don't need any tax cuts just an adjustment in personal allowances , a tax levying on energy companies , non dom tax satuts abolished,
As far as the NHS is concerned its an out of date system that is now obviously destined to fail and to a degree needs a a total revamp. If I visted he U.S would i get any free healthcare ? Err no .
The NHS Is a route of a lot of evil in this country, make what you want of that - yes i call it as i see it , one of the major reasons for immigration, free healthcare ! And it won't get any better, look at the state of Dentistry in the UK , I think you will find a lot of non essential services supplied by the NHS will slowly be going private and in time anything other than essential surgery or anything trauma based will be covered by insurance.
It's clear to see we just can't afford it.
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Soldato
I would have assumed from the private pension as that still triggers income tax and so can be measured easily. Wealth tax is a huge minefield and I don’t think any party will go near that. Too many known and unknown issues and can cause very long term damage if it’s done wrong.
State pension should be abolished and rolled into universal credit with similar criteria. If universal credit isn't enough to live on for a pensioner, then it's not enough for others either, and let's increase it for everyone. Raising taxes on private pensions (e.g. abolishing the 25% tax-free withdrawal, combining income tax and NI so everyone pays the same rate, etc) should raise enough funds to do this across the board.
The only wealth tax that can work seamlessly is a land/property tax, similar to how the US does it.
Soldato
I’m not sure how that would work. Couldn’t someone with £100m in the bank just buy something really cheap if they even bought a property at all. Also wouldn’t it punish people that were house poor which would be more likely in some parts of the UK than others.
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Good God. The NHS (the concept) is one of the absolute best things about this country. The commitment to treat anyone in need irrespective of their ability to pay is commendable. How it's ran, and how it's funded can be improved, certainly. But the principle is fantastic.
Keep your little Englander racism off the NHS please.
Commissario
I appreciate any more money in my pay packet (actually, I'll just add this to my pension like before) but it won't persuade me to vote for them.
Soldato
The problem is it will be paid for by cuts to services, as usual.
100% agree. How people can conflate "the route of a lot of evil" with people needing medical care is... amazing.
People say it like it's a bad thing, others uplifting their lives to change it for the better, but I feel like the second something threatens their way of life in the UK they'll be one of the first to jump on a plane to a tax free haven.
But... does it need reform... oh god yes.
Caporegime
The cost to reform it will be billions then they will scrap the idea and go back to how it was... UK track record
It would have had been easier to reform without paying for illegal migrants and a reform to social care, remove support for people who never paid taxes and are not citizens.
We have enough vulnerable citizens to support, who are neglected because system is overloaded by leeches.
We have enough vulnerable citizens to support, who are neglected because system is overloaded by leeches.
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Blame the illegals! The Tory lies are winning with you.
Divide and conquer tactics. They make it out like illegals are tehr problem, when they absolutely aren’t and in the most part migrants contribute positively to society and the NHS. Loads of the nurses in the NHS are migrants!
illegal migrants and migrants working in the NHS are is no way the same thing
Yeah I was seeing this positive contribution each day in east London, when my wife was afraid to leave flat alone after dark, with phones getting snatched in my area on a daily basis.
And as dave above said illegal migrant =/= legal one.
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Caporegime
This lot are absolutely mental.
Soldato
Of course not(and majority of immigrants arent either), but we have to start cuttings costs somewhere.And not all "leeches" are immigrants