It has been a long time since the 1970's, I know I was here. The debt should have been repaid when the courts decided it was a debt owed, several decades ago. But for sanctions, it may have been i do not know. HMG today is no more or less bameless than HMG yesterday or twenty years ago. However I am sure that Iran would still find reasons to incarcerate a number of its citizens with the temerity to hold another passport. That is what should also be the concentration here, the lawless theocracy without scruples.
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe faces new charge in Iran.
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Imagine expecting someone who’s spent 6 years in jail for no reason, missed all that time raising her little girl, spending time in solitary confinement to be grateful to a government finally paying its debts because they want something. Just lol.
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As you say, it's the standard GD cesspit.
Another Tory Foreign Office minister has joined the long list of people pointing out the £400m wasn't paid to release Zaghari-Ratcliffe so it looks as if we can continue the on-going OCUK experiment into how many times certain people must be told something before they are capable of taking that information onboard.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...nquiry-into-why-debt-owed-to-iran-went-unpaid
What's fascinating here is the suggestion that the US may have stopped us from making this payment. In terms of our relationship with the US, we had our lauded sovereignty, and already held our beloved freedom, and didn't need to engage in any foot-shooting to take back control.
So how the US was able to dictate what the UK did and did not do is a bit of a head-scratcher.
They were called sanctions so nothing to do with Brexit.
Though I think her timing is a bit off with this first press conference to start bashing the government.
She does have a point. The money debt was owed. We knew it was owed yet didn't pay it.
I've heard that there is an American connection as to the reason we didn't pay it, tied in to US sanctions on Iran. But either way we should have found a way around it, or just ignored the US. It's time UK got some backbone when dealing with the US.
It's typical of Britain. If you end up in trouble in another country they do the least amount to help you.
She does have a point. The money debt was owed. We knew it was owed yet didn't pay it.
I've heard that there is an American connection as to the reason we didn't pay it, tied in to US sanctions on Iran. But either way we should have found a way around it, or just ignored the US. It's time UK got some backbone when dealing with the US.
It's typical of Britain. If you end up in trouble in another country they do the least amount to help you.
Send the bitch back is trending...and I agree with it.
She's one of those typical naive middle class lefty do gooders, who went to Iran knowing full well the hostility of the regime to Britain and its willingness to use British citizens as pawns in their game with the West.
As a tax payer I'd like a refund on my share of the £400m.
She's one of those typical naive middle class lefty do gooders, who went to Iran knowing full well the hostility of the regime to Britain and its willingness to use British citizens as pawns in their game with the West.
As a tax payer I'd like a refund on my share of the £400m.
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Truss/Boris could have pre-empted Nazanins bashing by acknowledging what had gone wrong, which would have left Nazaninin a cleaner floor, for her speech.
Newsnight suggested she may have initially been arrested because UK had arrested and ejected incoming Iranian citizens about the same time.
you didn't expect from a moral point of view for her to immediately acknowledge the guy still locked up ? - there was enough publicity of this in the press that had already exposed the jubilatory Truss and parliament discourses.
Truss/Boris could have pre-empted Nazanins bashing by acknowledging what had gone wrong, which would have left Nazaninin a cleaner floor, for her speech.
Newsnight suggested she may have initially been arrested because UK had arrested and ejected incoming Iranian citizens about the same time.
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So she's used as a political pawn and instead of blaming the politics/politicians you blame the pawn?
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Is this obtuseness deliberate or unintended?
We weren't bound by numerous treaties into a union with the States, so how were they able to deny us the control, sovereignty, and freedom to make this payment?
Could it be that in reality sovereign nations are restricted in all of these things all of the time?
So she's used as a political pawn and instead of blaming the politics/politicians you blame the pawn?
Damn right.
The British Government isn't there to save people from their own stupidity after the fact.
the only reason she was in prison is because of the British government, nothing to do with her. Of course she's angry about it. She's literally been used to settle debt between two governments. NOTHING at all to do with her and she lost 6 years of her life. How can you not be angry about it?
The British Government sent her to Iran, did they?
She has no one to blame but herself for her predicament, play with fire, get burnt.
..but as always with stuff like this, people like yourself simply think the UK is to blame. Its your default position on everything.
you're clearly not getting it.
Also, Johnson is the one who through his carelessness inflamed the situation and almost certainly got her longer in prison. She has some justification in not feeling grateful for this alone, let alone that her husband had to starve himself several times and they still didn't listen to him. In fact he was told not to make a song and dance after she was arrested and this was the missive from the guilty Johnson's department at the time: https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...-ratcliffe-not-to-make-song-and-dance-says-mp
I'm sure, however, that she is very grateful to her local Labour MP who fought tirelessly on her behalf and to those who campaigned for her release.
That £400m pounds is their money not ours. We are merely repaying a debt for something that was never delivered.
The Iranian government is responsible, but our government shares some of the blame as a result of their actions that inflamed and worsened the situation, then they took a very lackadaisical approach once the damage had been done by Johnson with his careless words.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ghari-ratcliffe-release-campaign-tulip-saddiq
Questions still need to be answered, was there
pressure from the Trump administration and that's why our government was so reluctant to resolve the situation?
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...nquiry-into-why-debt-owed-to-iran-went-unpaid
pressure from the Trump administration and that's why our government was so reluctant to resolve the situation?
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...nquiry-into-why-debt-owed-to-iran-went-unpaid
Oh, I'm getting what you're all about.
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