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Gibbo, I think it looks nicer with the Spaces on if I do say so myself 
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Gibbo, I think it looks nicer with the Spaces on if I do say so myself
Cheers the Eibach 15mm turned up today for the rear, as the 23mm were a trial fit and although fine for the front, they poked a little at the rear as shown in the images.
As always exceptional quality from Eibach only downside being I need to hammer old studs out and put these new slightly longer ones in place.
Also fitted the Velossa big mouth as its called:
If you look closely you can see how it works by forcing air directly into air box.
Fitment was poor, maybe a slight difference in UK/USA cars, but some modification to it and well got it to fit.
Previous intake temperatures would sit 6-9c above ambient once car has being driven for 30 minutes, with the device fitted they are now holding 2-4c above ambient. There is for sure a noticeable improve in throttle response which is welcomed and though it might be placebo the car feels faster than ever. This car accelerates incredible well for its weight and supposedly 415BHP, it feels much stronger, no doubt helped by there being nearly 400lb/ft stock.
Also roads were dry tonight, FINALLY, I got a real opportunity to try out the new suspension and as my initial thoughts, steering feedback and weighting is further improved, infact feedback on the front-end is really very good, can really drive the car in the dry right on its grip limits and oh my are those limits damn high! It really is way above expectations, its a big car but I was throwing it around like a go-kart tonight and the way the front-end bites and communicates is lovely and now rolling into throttle on corner exit you can take bigger liberities, the rear steps but now it feels planted, more grip, more progressive and the differential seems to be finding grip easier, no doubt due to better body control and less deflection from the rear. I am really quite surprised and how quick this car can corner, it is as if it makes its mass disappear, it is really quite agile for its size and weight, remarkably so, but you know the best thing of all it is absolute bucket loads of fun, said it before, I will say it again it is a true drivers car. I suspect on a track this thing would be incredible and no doubt even eat my M3 simply because it feels more planted and has more grip.
Very impressed will be interesting to see how the anti-roll bars effect things and the spacers, those are my only suspension modifications left.
Also I must note the transmission bracket I fitted, well I've not had a single issue since with a 2nd-3rd gear change at maximum acceleration at the rev limiter.
The car could do with a little more power as a handling car with a few more RPM, so I can only imagine how sorted Daves 350 feels as now the suspension is so as the Americans would say hooked up, 6500rpm peak power and 7000rpm limiter is not enough, I can imagine how much fun it must be winding the Shelby out to the 8000rpm and feeling peak power at 7500rpm. I am pretty much 100% set now on the Shelby intake setup in the interim to get the peak power at 7500rpm, but unlike the American owners/tuners who set 7800-8200rpm I shall leave it at 7500rpm. I don't care if its safe because my car runs the same engine/spec as BOSS 302 which had a much higher limiter, more rpm equals more wear, so I'd rather keep well within the realms of safety and might even get the uprated OPG/Billet gears done etc. even though the BOSS nor the Shelby run this, but at end of day I will at some point go super charged and well I'd like the peace of mind.
But the shelby intake and tuning can wait, UK tuners are now tuning these cars, already showing some great gains from just a remap, see for yourself:
I am happy to wait for them to perfect the maps and do mapping on some more different combinations or even when I get my Shelby parts instead of using a US email tune to just get the car custom mapped by someone like Dreamscience with all the bits on the car. But what I have planned should take car from Fords official 415@6500rpm too 475-490@7500rpm with around 30-40lb/ft more torque so very noticable, parts are around £1000 shipped, then tuning on top. I think that is good value for the gains.
Hi there
OK I know its the older model car, S197 chassis, but same engine as mine and I really enjoyed watching this, hope you do as well:
That is the beauty of the new S550, it is the 5.0l from the 2012 BOSS 302 with forged rotating assembly and internals. What the S550 lost was the cobra jet intake manifolds, but now we know why, the engine was a little de-tuned to make way for more powerful 350 with higher rpm.
I won't fit cobra jet setup however, yes it does make more top-end power but it requires lowered engine mounts and it loses bottom end torque due to the runner design, plus you need a higher 8200rpm limiter to take full advantage.
The 350 intake is much better for a road car, there are no losses in power or torque anywhere and it shifts peak power nicely to 7500rpm with a good 30-40BHP gain over 6000rpm so with a tune should see power claim to 475-490BHP, the Cobra jet intake would take power well over 500 with rev limit around 8200rpm, but driveability and low down power/torque is sacrificed.
Gonna go the 350 route myself as it in my view is great value and well within running specification by Ford for the engine.
Couple of graphs of gains:
Tuned car with CAI VS same car with just 350 intake/TB added and tune re-vised to accomodate:
That is an owner who did the install themselves and dyno before and after, no company/marketing BS.
Here is what JDM tuning achieved from car with CAI and tune, to then changing to 350 intake and re-tuning:
To start, a Baseline Dyno Test was done with the Stock Intake Manifold, Airaid intake, Magnaflow Street Cat-Back and a JDM Engineering 93 Octane Street Tune.
They got 408WHP with stock intake manifold and a best quarter mile time of 11.9s at 117mph.
Changing to the 350 intake and TB, peak power was now 430WHP but with 60WHP gains at over 7000rpm.
Awaiting better weather for 1/4 mile but customers with the setup are running 11.6-11.9s at 124-126mph.
So great gains and using Ford parts. I cannot wait to do it, but I will have to wait until I have a few thousand miles on the engine, but it is good to see the great results others are having.
OK I know its the older model car, S197 chassis, but same engine as mine and I really enjoyed watching this, hope you do as well:
That is the beauty of the new S550, it is the 5.0l from the 2012 BOSS 302 with forged rotating assembly and internals. What the S550 lost was the cobra jet intake manifolds, but now we know why, the engine was a little de-tuned to make way for more powerful 350 with higher rpm.
I won't fit cobra jet setup however, yes it does make more top-end power but it requires lowered engine mounts and it loses bottom end torque due to the runner design, plus you need a higher 8200rpm limiter to take full advantage.
The 350 intake is much better for a road car, there are no losses in power or torque anywhere and it shifts peak power nicely to 7500rpm with a good 30-40BHP gain over 6000rpm so with a tune should see power claim to 475-490BHP, the Cobra jet intake would take power well over 500 with rev limit around 8200rpm, but driveability and low down power/torque is sacrificed.
Gonna go the 350 route myself as it in my view is great value and well within running specification by Ford for the engine.
Couple of graphs of gains:
Tuned car with CAI VS same car with just 350 intake/TB added and tune re-vised to accomodate:
That is an owner who did the install themselves and dyno before and after, no company/marketing BS.
Here is what JDM tuning achieved from car with CAI and tune, to then changing to 350 intake and re-tuning:
To start, a Baseline Dyno Test was done with the Stock Intake Manifold, Airaid intake, Magnaflow Street Cat-Back and a JDM Engineering 93 Octane Street Tune.
They got 408WHP with stock intake manifold and a best quarter mile time of 11.9s at 117mph.
Changing to the 350 intake and TB, peak power was now 430WHP but with 60WHP gains at over 7000rpm.
Awaiting better weather for 1/4 mile but customers with the setup are running 11.6-11.9s at 124-126mph.
So great gains and using Ford parts. I cannot wait to do it, but I will have to wait until I have a few thousand miles on the engine, but it is good to see the great results others are having.
Check this video out:
It is insanely loud!
That noise at 1:40!
Soldato
"It's still a huge car"
"It's still a huge car"
But its huge fun! Says it all really.
The woolyness and lack of dynamics, agreed, but what I've done has dialed them out nicely, it is now even more fun and charactful but with dynamics and handling. I could not have purchased any other new car sub 40k (mods included) and got anything like it.
I can't be alone either, Ford are selling plenty of them, speaks volumes.
"It's still a huge car"
only compared to European cars
i saw a black mustang GT today and it looked brilliant, it had dark grey wheels.
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Yup.
Were you one of the guys I was talking too, quite a few people kept coming over asking questions.
Hi there
OK as it seems people stalk me, as pointed out above I was indeed at autobrite today, but not for a detail, because as already mentioned Ford did a great job of preparing the car and did not swirl or mar the paint work.
A week ago I spotted on Autobrite's facebook page a Range Rover done in Autograph car wax, £85 per small pot and I asked how much they would charge to essentially clean my car exterior and add a layer of this wax, they said it is around 2hr work and would be £60, absolute bargain I said. Perfect for me as I want my paint to stay swirl free so I want to avoid waxing myself.
I took the car today at lunch time, they got too work, bad news we have no Autograph, so instead for no extra charge we shall use our best highest quality shine and durable wax we have "Legacy" at over £200 per pot.
A quick couple of photos:
They did a full photoshoot and video of the car as well, the above are from Facebook so I shall re-post some proper full quality images when the owner from Autobrite emails them over to me.
In short the plan is to take it to them every 6 months for this treatments, because in short it makes perfect sense, so September for Abyss sealant (better for winter) and March for Legacy Wax. At £60 for a solid couple hours work by a professional using the best products is great value.
Love the way the car looks, they also said to bring the car back with the spacers fitted and wheels done in dark grey and they will do a new photoshoot, but on a sunny day.
They also confirmed it was one of the best paint finishes they have seen on a brand new car, really impressive stuff!
OK as it seems people stalk me,
as pointed out above I was indeed at autobrite today, but not for a detail, because as already mentioned Ford did a great job of preparing the car and did not swirl or mar the paint work.A week ago I spotted on Autobrite's facebook page a Range Rover done in Autograph car wax, £85 per small pot and I asked how much they would charge to essentially clean my car exterior and add a layer of this wax, they said it is around 2hr work and would be £60, absolute bargain I said. Perfect for me as I want my paint to stay swirl free so I want to avoid waxing myself.
I took the car today at lunch time, they got too work, bad news we have no Autograph, so instead for no extra charge we shall use our best highest quality shine and durable wax we have "Legacy" at over £200 per pot.
A quick couple of photos:
They did a full photoshoot and video of the car as well, the above are from Facebook so I shall re-post some proper full quality images when the owner from Autobrite emails them over to me.
In short the plan is to take it to them every 6 months for this treatments, because in short it makes perfect sense, so September for Abyss sealant (better for winter) and March for Legacy Wax. At £60 for a solid couple hours work by a professional using the best products is great value.
Love the way the car looks, they also said to bring the car back with the spacers fitted and wheels done in dark grey and they will do a new photoshoot, but on a sunny day.
They also confirmed it was one of the best paint finishes they have seen on a brand new car, really impressive stuff!
Yup.
Were you one of the guys I was talking too, quite a few people kept coming over asking questions.
No it wasnt but im part of the autobrite facebook page and saw the post on there earlier.
We have spoken a few times over the years though, i've been coming into the shop since you were in fenton in the ever so lovely orange and grey building and you used to park your car, saleen etc in the drive through middle bit lol.
Always been a bit envious of your motors over the years gibbo, you make some very good choices; well maybe not the evo x, but i am a bit biased as i chose the evo 9 instead
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Soldato
Where have you being?
I had the car up in the air days after getting the car.
A few video clips a few pages back.
Sounds epic gibbo. Hope to hear it in person one day.
Have the Porsche + M3 gone now?
Sounds epic gibbo. Hope to hear it in person one day.
Have the Porsche + M3 gone now?
Just Porsche, am keeping the M3.
Here is a few more of the picture that Autobrite took of the car today.
They have agreed that once spacers are fitted and the alloys are re-coloured to gunmetal to take it back and they will take some more photos for me.
Am over the moon with it, can't wait to get the spacers on it, to finish it off!
They have agreed that once spacers are fitted and the alloys are re-coloured to gunmetal to take it back and they will take some more photos for me.
Am over the moon with it, can't wait to get the spacers on it, to finish it off!
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Wow looking superb Gibbo
With the better quality pics I'm now liking the chrome trim and silver alloys...ties in very well with the rear lamps.
Be interesting too see the autobrite pics if you go ahead with anthracite wheels.
With the better quality pics I'm now liking the chrome trim and silver alloys...ties in very well with the rear lamps.
Be interesting too see the autobrite pics if you go ahead with anthracite wheels.
True, hence fitting spacers first and leaving for a few weeks before changing wheel colour just in case it grows on me.
Just had a guy come round to buy my spare set of spacers as he has got a yellow one, he gets out and I could swear I recognized him. Started talking old Mustangs and we I told him how I had a Saleen, he was like was it black, I was like yes, build 666, I am like yes, at that point we both clicked, he is the same guy I got my Saleen from all those years ago. Small world, or just Mustang friends, haha!
Soldato
Dude that does look awesome, have to say that's the first time I've looked and thought wow that looks the part.
I really do need to give Autobrite a try one of these days as I've tried a few others locally and never really felt I had good VFM/impressive results. Top job
I really do need to give Autobrite a try one of these days as I've tried a few others locally and never really felt I had good VFM/impressive results. Top job