NEARLY 2 YEARS WAITING: New Mustang GT PP is finally mine!

Absolutely incredible value, no other car can even come close for that money. Imagine the sales in UK if Ford UK offered a base V8 GT with FRPP stage 2 SC kit with 700 horsepower for £39,995 OTR plus options.

One can only hope because of the absolutely huge success Mustang has being in Europe and UK that Ford start to give us Europeans more options and Mountune get more involved along with Roush/FRPP making their presence more known.

I do however know that Mountune, Roush and RTR will become official in the UK, which is a good start. :)

Mrs wants a mustang, she saw one on the road a few weeks ago :D
 
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Though I am pretty damn happy with my gear box as shifts feel pretty great, though it can be a little to notchy particular in mornings and as the whole of the US seem to rave about how things improve so much when changing to a premium gear box fluid, I've gone with the fluid that seems to be an internet sensation.

I've also gone with diff fluid as well, I feel that on a new car and after a track day it is probably good practice to put fresh fluids in as quite a few reports of diff fluid in particular being black and full of metal shavings after 1000 miles.

As its easy to do and cost circa £125ish it just seems good practice and if I get half the improvement the US guys mention then great stuff if what already feels like a great shifting action improves further.

Here is the kit:

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http://www.opmustang.com/store/p7/BG_PRODUCTS_COMBO_KIT_2015_AND_UP_MUSTANG.html


I shall report back on if the car feels different, positive or negative in any way after doing the fluid change in a couple of weeks. :)



So the kit arrived pretty quick, less than a week from DHL and there was £39 in custom charges which you have to pay online before they deliver with DHL but was pretty straight forward.

This is a complete kit so it comes with everything you need, pumps, dip stick, cup, oil, sealant tape, all you actually need is a bowl to drain into, rag and 3/8 ratchet.

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As my drive is raised I decided to change the rear diff oil myself as the differential is easily accessible.

So I undid the fill plug and as instructions suggest no oil came out as the oil fill from factory is about 10mm below the fill hole, easily checked with dip stick provided. I then loosened lower bolt and put bowl in place and removed bolt. What came out was black:

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So I pumped some fresh into, about two pumps until what drained out was also bright green in colour and no longer black. I also cleaned both diff bolts as they are magnetic and were filthy and full of metal fragments, so a good clean before re-install.

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Then pumped until air, checked using dip stick and was low so as instructions suggest tilt bottle and pump more, did this until oil was upto level on provided dip stick.

When I go garage on Friday to do gear box oil change I shall double check diff level and top up as necessary.

One word of advise when putting the sealant tape onto the bolt threads only put a little on, I put quite a bit on which meant it took some good strength to tighten the bolts all the way back in, so less is more.

Instructions say to drive gentle for 100 miles to ensure the oil gets everywhere it should and then good to go.

Went for drive, car seemed fine, no changes but I suspect this is kind of thing is not noticeable and is just for differential longevity and reduced running temperatures.

The gear box oil is the one which according to the 100s in the US who have changed to this oil notice an instant improvement in gear changing quality so lets see.

But the kit from [MENTION=22413]Optimum Performance[/MENTION] is absolutely spot on and makes it a very easy job to do, any garage could do both the diff and gear box in less than an hour with ease, maybe even 30 minutes. :)
 
Not bad at all and be interesting to see how much quicker the Stang would be on MPSS as its a better tyre over the Pzero.
 
Fairly hard to believe considering the M2 is down on power and grip compared to both the A45 and RS3, however...

The Super sports are the better tyres compared to the Dunlops, and i've seen the A45 do a 1.13.5 here:

http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel5922-5975.htm

which would likely explain that. Well in fact the Dunlops are the worst tyre there, so would imagine all 4 are very closely matched on the same tyres.

Sport Auto tested the CLA45 at 1.14 at Hockenheim (on Michelin pilot cup2), so with the A45 being 30kg lighter, it would be faster than that.
 
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Fairly hard to believe considering the M2 is down on power and grip compared to both the A45 and RS3, however...

The Super sports are the better tyres compared to the Dunlops, and i've seen the A45 do a 1.13.5 here:

http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel5922-5975.htm

which would likely explain that. Well in fact the Dunlops are the worst tyre there, so would imagine all 4 are very closely matched on the same tyres.

Sport Auto tested the CLA45 at 1.14 at Hockenheim (on Michelin pilot cup2), so with the A45 being 30kg lighter, it would be faster than that.



Its quite funny reading the Mustang forums, people not believing the hype I say about MPSS and what a huge improvement they would give the Mustang, afterall it is the reason they are stock fitment on GT 350 and Focus RS.

But now some have fitted them they are all fitting them because they are transforming the car so much.

The Pzero is a tyre which confuses me, it never seems to do that badly in reviews, normally in the top 5, but having driven on Pzero on both the 911 and Mustang (also Boxster S too) I find it a nervous feeling tyre in cold/wet conditions which has some grip, take note I say *some* and then just proceeds to absolutely throw the towel in and there being zero progression at all. In the dry, especially on a warm day it is better and has progression though it still falls short on overall grip and feels well something just feels a miss. So though it does well in reviews in my experience on both the 911 and Mustang it is a rather poor tyre, it is not good at anything and they also wear out shockingly quick.

All I can assume is Pirelli has huge marketing budgets and sell them for peanuts hence the better than average reviews and it being original equipment fitment on many cars.

I'd have taken any tyre on the Mustang over it, the Dunlop in my experience is a better tyre than it, particular in wet but also dry and the MPSS is in a completely different league to them all, it grips better in all conditions, it has more progression and it last more than twice as long.

Still a good show for the big heavy GT car on rubbish tyres. :D


P.S. Having done huge amounts of track driving, it is not hard to believe at all that the M2 handed the AWD cars their backside, to put it simply RWD, low weight is the best setup for dry track driving, never seen AWD cars do particular well on track days unless running huge huge power and relying on straight lines or literally being stripped down to a shell. Typically the FWD and RWD are quicker, less weight, more power to the road and better handling dynamics. :)
Of course I am excluding AWD cars that are RWD until they need to move power such as R8, GTR, 911 etc. as they simply are RWD until otherwise required, but AWD setups that are permanent 4WD or FWD sending power to rear do not do so well and are also not so much fun to drive either on track, they quickly become annoying for me, even the quicker ones. RWD, NA power everytime! :)
The A45 would also need to be on cup 2 to be quicker than CLA45, on MPSS it would still be slower, cup tyres offer quite an advantage on a dry track over MPSS. :)
 
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Gear box oiled changed at XJK, super easy with a ramp, took them 20 minutes and done for free. :)

Though to me the gear box is rather nice, a little notchy particular when cold, no different to how the 911 was but I do prefer the Mustang's, still as Americans rave so much about the fluid with some even changing from RP and Amsoil and quoting an improvement.

So it was done, definetely not placebo I noticed it straight away, bear in mind oil was cold and it felt better than the box would normally feel when all heated up. Still notchy in a nice sports way but buttery smooth if that makes sense.

Shall report back tonight after a drive out, but the gear box oil change can be felt for sure. Also double checked diff level, spot on and still bright green. :)
 
After seeing pictures of the tailgate bit that is stock vs yours, I have realised how much I dislike the stock one.

Your car is the best of the bunch in every photo due to the little touches you have added. I still cant get over how aggressive the back looks with the spoiler.

Beautiful car and you are just doing everything right visually. :)
 
After seeing pictures of the tailgate bit that is stock vs yours, I have realised how much I dislike the stock one.

Your car is the best of the bunch in every photo due to the little touches you have added. I still cant get over how aggressive the back looks with the spoiler.

Beautiful car and you are just doing everything right visually. :)


Thank you. :)

My aim all along has to keep the car looking like it left the factory looking like this but with a touch of aggression and elegance combined. I think the wheels will finish the car of personally. :)
 
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I'm a bit late with reporting back but great weather pass few days so I've being enjoying the car, I really do love driving it. :)

The gear box oil certainly makes a difference making what was already good even better. Smoother and cured the notchiness when cold.

Loving the car in this warm weather and all the little bits I've done just make the car even nicer to drive and more fun. :)
 
Hi there

This is a stunning achievement, over 1000BHP on a completely stock 2015 Mustang:

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?1110172-930-Horsepower-Stock-Motor-2015-Mustang


Will it last, probably not, from speaking with the owner he does not expect it to last either as is prepared to build an uprated motor once it decides to let go.

Even more impressive is he has not even upgraded the oil pump gears, crank pulley or anything, everything is literally as it left factory of course apart from the power adder.

The only upgrade is an uprated clutch to handle the power. :eek:
 
At what point is a clutch upgrade required? Depending on how it's setup i assume, torque being more the reason than power?


Really when going super charged, some need them and some do not, depending on power levels, driving style. Some have issues at 650BHP, others have no issues with 700+, seems not every stock clutch is equal.

I shall leave mine stock until it begins to slip.

On my last Mustang 510BHP super charged was no issue at all. When I reduced pulley size and went to 575BHP and 500lb/ft it start to slip in 4th upwards, six months later it was slipping in 3rd at which point it was upgraded. A decent clutch kit is around £500 and pretty straight forward to install, did it myself with a mate on the last one. :)
 
Was nice to meet you Gibbo.
Car looks amazing all the bits you have added look superb.
The sound is amazing.

Although the wife does not get it lol
 
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