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Sawell

Sawell

Sawell

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Really quick job, it's just to make an iframe page with the necessary variables from the main site (nuke driven) and to edit the main site content link to that page, rather than external page.

In effect it's a form of keeping the traffic on my site, but showing external sites.
 
this thread is frowned upon in two ways..

1. Personal gain.
2. Leeching others sites and promoting as your own is a) gay and b) illegal.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
this thread is frowned upon in two ways..

1. Personal gain.
2. Leeching others sites and promoting as your own is a) gay and b) illegal.
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1. I never said the coder wouldn't be paid; I would have thought it would be obvious I don't expect free work.

2. There is no "leeching", the website promotes a service and external sites publish THEIR service within mine, the content is still their own, they still get traffic... it enables the user to rate and report the content should it be incorrect/broken. I am giving them traffic, not the other way around. Do you even know the legalities behind website promotion? There is no current law for iframe link management; if I was to rip the content and claim it as my own then that's a different issue all together.

Kindly take your assumptions elsewhere.
 
Sawell said:
1. I never said the coder wouldn't be paid; I would have thought it would be obvious I don't expect free work.

Kindly take your assumptions elsewhere.
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Which would mean that the coder is getting personal gain from OCUK and it's not allowed
 
Harib0 said:
Which would mean that the coder is getting personal gain from OCUK and it's not allowed
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If you could direct me to that post I'd be grateful.

Applying logic and common sense I would imagine that rule is to weed out merchant hardware sellers, who would be in competition with OCUK.

Posting for advice in the hardware section and getting a response which is helpful is surely personal gain? Don't be pathetic.

EDIT: Pfft and coming from a fellow Southamptoner too, for shame.
 
No promotion of business interests

You may not promote any website or business you have a financial or other interest in, or use the popularity of this community to help build one of your own. The forums are here to allow people to freely share knowledge, not provide them with personal financial gain, or free advertising.
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Slightly ambiguous in this case, but as you've offered money that will be seen as personal finacial gain to at least one party.
 
You won't find that post, because they have all been deleted where people have used these forums as advertisment. You are using them for personal gain, as well as the person you will be hiring. You wouldn't be asking if it wasn't of benefit. As a matter of fact, click the RTM button, you'll see the line:
Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts.
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You are still promoting their site as your own. The address bar will point to your domain, not theirs. However as you have stated it's a pay service where they will pay you to include their site, you will obviously have their consent.

Oh, and as for "web site promotion" legalities - there is one massive law you seem to have overlooked in that statement - Copyright.
 
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Sawell said:
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Perhaps you'd get a better response if you obeyed the rules of a forum you're clearly unfamiliar with?

There is a well-established rule of HG&P that dictates you can't offer or request paid work. We're a community that helps each other, for free, with genuine requests, we don't want this turning into something where people who want work done exploit the posters' knowledge or where people come here solely to find work: that's contrary our main principles.

It takes a lot of effort and goodwill to maintain a forum like this: don't be surprised if regulars are less than enthusiastic when new members come in and try to spoil it :)
 
robmiller said:
Perhaps you'd get a better response if you obeyed the rules of a forum you're clearly unfamiliar with?

There is a well-established rule of HG&P that dictates you can't offer or request paid work. We're a community that helps each other, for free, with genuine requests, we don't want this turning into something where people who want work done exploit the posters' knowledge or where people come here solely to find work: that's contrary our main principles.

It takes a lot of effort and goodwill to maintain a forum like this: don't be surprised if regulars are less than enthusiastic when new members come in and try to spoil it :)
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They can do it for free if they like, I'm not forcing them to take money from me. I'm not hiring anyone; the payment would be a gift, a donation. A member challenged me claiming that my personal gain was in interest, then I flipped it and you come back claming I can't now post because someone else's personal gain is inflicted? Please, give me a break here - I'm trying to get a hand with some php coding I don't understand, that doesn't break the [[sorry about language]] rules, the sole purpose of this entire forum is clearly for help and guidance.

FYI I’m not promoting business interests, and payment doesn’t have to be made – and won’t be made, if it is against the rules. However idiotic it is to STOP me from saying thank you to a member with payment, because clearly this whole situation has been blown out of proportion, you all need to take a step back and look at what you’re actually saying.

Dj_jester said:
You are still promoting their site as your own. The address bar will point to your domain, not theirs. However as you have stated it's a pay service where they will pay you to include their site, you will obviously have their consent.

Oh, and as for "web site promotion" legalities - there is one massive law you seem to have overlooked in that statement - Copyright.
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That's complete bull, and no, it's not a pay service.

Why don't you go to a well established site that's “breaking” these “copyright laws”, one that springs to mind is www.tutorialized.com and spout your [[sorry about language]] at them, your post is completely idotic... that's like claiming firefox have to get copyright on every single website in the world to publish their content, why don't you think before you type?
 
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Beansprout said:
No, you mis-interpreted.

Cool down, read the FAQ, and go elsewhere to dedicated sites which exist to serve your needs.
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So let me get this right, a member below this post can request a photoshop graphic but I can't request a piece of code?

Yeah, logical.

Dj_Jestar said:
Completely idiotic.. right..

Have some (read: shedloads) of reading material

also, you still stand to gain benefit - it is an inclusion that you are going to pay.. sorry, "donate to" the developer.. (do you honestly think the mod's will fall for that old chestnut?) not a flip.
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I don't see any evidence of copyright infringement with your google search, only people talking about bad coding aspects. Oops!
 
Sawell said:
So let me get this right, a member below this post can request a photoshop graphic but I can't request a piece of code?

Yeah, logical.



I don't see any evidence of copyright infringement with your google search, only people talking about bad coding aspects. Oops!
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So you claim that leeching sites to post on yours, be it frames or direct leeching, under your domain, surrounded by your page, with your information on, is not an infringement of copyright?

kk batman.
 
Sawell said:
So let me get this right, a member below this post can request a photoshop graphic but I can't request a piece of code?
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Photoshop one is fun. Your request is commercial.

We're good at spotting this by now.

This is not the place for such requests. Read the FAQ.

You're lucky I'm not a moderator anymore ;)
 
I think you're all being silly :p

If he even just worded the post differently, along the lines of:

"I'm using phpnuke and want to display a site in an iframe, but it'll need php to load up the sites url from the database, depending on what link the user clicked to get to the iframe page... how do I do that?"

Then I bet you wouldn't be moaning so much... it's only because he said it in a slightly more demanding way...

I've never used php nuke so don't know exactly where the desired website URL to go in the iframe will come from. Otherwise I'd help and post the code here, for everyone to see. So there'd be no personal gain, just gain for everyone who wants to know.

TBH you did pretty much bully him into saying he'd pay - telling him off for asking for it, then to counter the personal gain argument he said he'd pay, then you moaned about that too ;)

Plus the copyright/legality of showing another site within yours... it's totally legal. To make it illegal, you'd have to load up the contents of the website and display it in your site without any of their branding, etc. An iframe will show their website exactly how it's supposed to be shown - just in a frame. No legal problems there at all.

Also, frames aren't always bad IMO - they are bad to base your website design around, but there are often some good reasons to use them, and tbh I think this is one of the good reasons to use them - when you don't want people leaving your site.
 
C'mon don't argue for the sake of argument :p

It's like getting a Nike shoe, and putting it in a display box with your shops name on it.

It's not like getting a Nike shoe, peeling the Nike stickers off, and putting your own stickers on there to make it look like you made the shoe.

That example sucked eh :D But you know what I mean..
 
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