Neighbour issuing parking tickets!

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stopper said:
The legal system (legislation) is contract law, and is completely unenforceable until you are in breech of an actual contract, which they can then use against you in court.
Take a minute and learn how legislation works, or how it doesn't work rather, it's a very easy thing to learn.
A council parking notice is not an agreement, it is a demand, or an invoice. Same goes for school term holiday, littering and dog **** fines. In no way are the council due any compensation for your actions.

I've been through it, and the most I got from them was a sweaty roid freak come knocking on the door trying to scare me and say I owe him money. I told him where to go and never heard from them or saw him again.
Not once did I ever fill out their forms or sign their agreements like everyone does. I gave them no physical evidence to "lawfully" enforce it.

Now if a Judge and his jury ever signed a parking charge into common law (which they never will because it could be classed as slavery) then it would be a completely different story.
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:rolleyes:

didn't see this before but just had to quote it and give it the contempt this drivel deserves

seriously you're a bit deluded here and posting things like this actually does harm people sometimes - look at the idiot in Nottingham who lost his home because he believed in this sort of freeman of the land nonsense perpetuated by people like you:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...reds-try-to-stop-cancer-patient-eviction.html
 
Steeps said:
Is the parking "charge" £90 or £100? The sign states both. Probably can't be enforced anyway if the sign doesn't have the right pricing on it.
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Regardless of what price it states it can't be enforced anyway. Sure, he is within his rights to demand whatever money he likes, you're not obliged to hand it over though.
 
None of the private parking "contracts" are enforcable really. They have to drag you through the courts to get anything. But then if they have not done everything perfectly by the book, it will just get thrown out straight away.

Something like 97% of people get away with ignoring the letters and not paying. It's so hard and costly to get money out of individuals for things like this that most of the time its just empty threats.
 
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Nasher said:
None of the private parking "contracts" are enforcable really. They have to drag you through the courts to get anything. But then if they have not done everything perfectly by the book, it will just get thrown out straight away.

Something like 97% of people get away with ignoring the letters and not paying. It's so hard and costly to get money out of individuals for things like this that most of the time its just empty threats.
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that is partly down to the business model though, plenty of people simply pay up as a result of the threat (your '97%' is surely of those who ignore the letters not 97% of people ticketed else these firms would go bust), it probably isn't worth them wasting time on the people who have had 1 ticket and ignored it on the other hand it can be very worthwhile pursuing people who've accumulated multiple tickets and courts have shown they're quite prepared to enforce them

I think it is sort of like bailiffs threatening to remove goods - for most people they'll either pay up when they get to the door or they'll pay up once they're inside and have started moving furniture around - they don't really want to take the goods as it would be a total faff to sell some *****'s TV but it is the kick up the arse some of these people need to get them to pay their debts... though for a small number they simply won't pay and for another small number the debt may be large enough and the goods valuable enough that they actually do what they threaten and seize them

as long as the actual threat can be carried out then in most cases it it doesn't need to be

also they serve a useful purpose tbh.. all sorts of random people would be parked on my development if we didn't have the signs, CCTV etc... even for my space which is behind a locked gate we did previously have issues with some residents parking in the wrong spaces and nicking those belonging to others - the fact they got behind the gate meant they had a space there so no excuses for them... now with the enforcement side and a badge in the window clearly displaying your space number no one else is likely to steal it

platypus said:
I think he's confused Council Parking notices with privately issued parking notices.
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nah, just google 'freeman on the land' read a bit about what they believe then re-read his post and it will start to make sense - well not make sense as it is utter nonsense, but you'll see where it comes from
 
Bailiffs or debt collectors? It's very unlikely bailiffs will get sent over a parking ticket. Debt collectors are powerless.

I'm talking about private parking tickets btw, not council ones. Which can be enforced.
 
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Nasher said:
Bailiffs or debt collectors? It's very unlikely bailiffs will get sent over a parking ticket. Debt collectors are powerless.

I'm talking about private parking tickets btw, not council ones. Which can be enforced.
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private parking tickets can and do result in people being taken to court though:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-pay-thousands-parking-fines-racked-hospital/

re: bailiffs I was making a comparison, people tend to pay up bailiffs just under the threat of having goods seized likewise people pay private parking fines just under the threat of court action - the action can occur and the threat is real but it doesn't happen very often as it isn't really needed because plenty of people simply pay up
 
Regardless of whether or not he has handed out any tickets, that sign will probably have deterred a few people from parking. Once the council make him take the sign down (Can they make him take it down, if it is fixed to his property?) then he'll probably resort to other methods, which means people parking there will need a tyre pump with them...
 
So if he does indeed own the land outside of his house and he has relevant signage and goes through the BPA process, what is stopping this from being taken to court and enforced? How is this different from other private parking enforcement? Whilst I get that many don't enforce the tickets due to the economics, that doesn't mean they can't.
 
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