Neighbour issuing parking tickets!

Scort · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:41

Luke said:
Park in front, get a ticket and post it here so we can comment.

dowie · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:41

OP I think you do need to park in front of his house now out of principle... get yourself a ticket

Burnsy2023 · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:31

dowie said:
I was questioning that too but see this post by @Avenged7Fold :

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30983177/

that seems to be the standard practice for a highway, the land is generally 'technically' still the property of the owners of the frontages though they don't get to exercise any property rights - it is different if the road is privately maintained and obviously it is different if the road is not a highway but simply a private road that others don't have any rights of way over

I think the situation at my development is that some roads have been adopted by the council, others haven't - though even in the case of the adopted bit the parking spaces on either side of the road (basically we have pavement then essentially a lane of parking spaces then the road) are private and parking is enforced there... so presumably it is only the actual road bit that is 'highway'

I think footpaths are a bit different - AFAIK the landowner can have responsibility for maintaining them, certainly in the countryside when you have a right of way or footpath crossing your land (perhaps this isn't always the case and maybe councils adopt some in urban areas in a similar manner to highways)

That's interesting, I'd like to see the source PDF. It's worth noting that private roads can be and usually are highways, even if unadopted. I think my main point is that isn't a simple problem legally and the situation may be counter intuitive.

Malt_Vinegar · 22 Jul 2017 at 15:49

He has now taken to parking his own car outside his house in the disputed location, dead centre, to stop anyone else parking there.
I believe this is because he has been told he can no longer give out tickets by the Parish Counail.

dowie · 22 Jul 2017 at 16:02

haha, nice one

Burnsy2023 said:
That's interesting, I'd like to see the source PDF. It's worth noting that private roads can be and usually are highways, even if unadopted. I think my main point is that isn't a simple problem legally and the situation may be counter intuitive.

Private roads that are highways are mentioned in that quote already, I'm not sure it is too complicated if the road is adopted - though yeah it does seem counterintuitive that the land is technically within the boundaries of the adjacent properties but that they've not got any rights. The PDF comes from a local council website it seems:

Private Streets FAQ What is a highway? - City of York Council

NewGamer11 · 22 Jul 2017 at 16:20

Malt_Vinegar said:
He has now taken to parking his own car outside his house in the disputed location, dead centre, to stop anyone else parking there.
I believe this is because he has been told he can no longer give out tickets by the Parish Counail.

You ruined his money making scheme!

Destination · 22 Jul 2017 at 17:40

Malt_Vinegar said:
He has now taken to parking his own car outside his house in the disputed location, dead centre, to stop anyone else parking there.
I believe this is because he has been told he can no longer give out tickets by the Parish Counail.

LOL, you HAVE to go and place a parking ticket on the car....

arc@css · 22 Jul 2017 at 17:52

Hikari Kisugi said:
LOL, you HAVE to go and place a parking ticket on the car....

UTmaniac · 22 Jul 2017 at 18:24

Malt_Vinegar said:
He has now taken to parking his own car outside his house in the disputed location, dead centre, to stop anyone else parking there.
I believe this is because he has been told he can no longer give out tickets by the Parish Counail.

Get ready to pounce when he goes for a drive.

Tosno · 22 Jul 2017 at 22:20

yogibear88 said:
You must be well boring to hang around with. This is all I ever see you post about.... (am I prompting an Alpha response?)

Sounds like a female response hinting for a date

muon · 22 Jul 2017 at 22:33

SC0TTRS said:
Website has changed to: http://www.issueparkingcharges.co.uk

It's a scam company trying to impersonating an official governing body...

Comical that you can order your 'starter-kit' complete with fake tickets, lol

http://www.issueparkingcharges.co.uk/main/order-now

If the OP's neighbour uses this service he'll receive £12 for every ticket paid! LOL

Seems others have had dealings with this so called company and I quote:

"Although the name "National Parking Control" sounds like an official body (i.e council or government agency) it's nothing of the kind. It's just a tin-pot private company."

"hey sell kits, so some janitor/ caretaker who is fed up with washing away the pish of drunks can play authority traffic warden with his book of fake fines bought from "National Parking control" for £59.
£59 buys you a pack of fake parking tickets !
This is not even a good scam company, they ring like a hollow tree."

Legal Aspects of the company are a complete joke!

This company can't even get registered keeper details as there is no mention of PoFA and so every ticket is unnenforceable as the keeper is not responsible for any alleged charge. If they are submitting PoFA requests to the DVLA then you should complain to the DVLA.

edit:

Just checked a few examples. Not PoFA compliant. (edit: although more recently they may have improved)

edit2:

More info on Cascade Financial Ltd.

https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a...de-Financial-Ltd-T-A-National-Parking-Control

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07630266/officers

An amateur operation you can just ignore. Until 21st June 2017 they were about to be struck off by Companies House.

Accounts show they company is in serious debt.

[FnG]magnolia · 22 Jul 2017 at 22:53

Hikari Kisugi said:
LOL, you HAVE to go and place a parking ticket on the car....

And 200 quid for each infringement. Go hard or go home :mad:

Malt_Vinegar · 24 Jul 2017 at 09:14

He is currently standing on the pavement arguing with a council official

wedrum · 24 Jul 2017 at 09:18

haha brilliant

Malt_Vinegar · 24 Jul 2017 at 09:24

The best part of it is that the council guy parked his car in the disputed spaces

He has now taken him inside to "let me show you the deeds"...

Apparently his house (and a few others in the street, mine too apparently) are "special" meaning we own the road.

It seems this has come to a head because some council official was told to use this road for parking by the Parish, and her unmarked car was ticketed.

It would appear my reporting was simply a timely coincidence. Although the parish council did chase me up for an email reporting the issue on Friday.

RoboCod · 24 Jul 2017 at 09:34

Brilliant. Will be interesting to hear the outcome.

ivrytwr3 · 24 Jul 2017 at 09:38

jeez, is this your neighbour?

Burnsy2023 · 24 Jul 2017 at 09:45

Malt_Vinegar said:
The best part of it is that the council guy parked his car in the disputed spaces

He has now taken him inside to "let me show you the deeds"...

Apparently his house (and a few others in the street, mine too apparently) are "special" meaning we own the road.

It seems this has come to a head because some council official was told to use this road for parking by the Parish, and her unmarked car was ticketed.

It would appear my reporting was simply a timely coincidence. Although the parish council did chase me up for an email reporting the issue on Friday.

*Gets popcorn and a comfy seat*

Malt_Vinegar · 24 Jul 2017 at 09:51

The council official has been escorted back to his car, and has left.

It all seemed very cordial towards the end. Will report back when I get any more information.

Yaayuh! · 24 Jul 2017 at 10:11

Malt_Vinegar said:
The best part of it is that the council guy parked his car in the disputed spaces

He has now taken him inside to "let me show you the deeds"...

Apparently his house (and a few others in the street, mine too apparently) are "special" meaning we own the road.

It seems this has come to a head because some council official was told to use this road for parking by the Parish, and her unmarked car was ticketed.

It would appear my reporting was simply a timely coincidence. Although the parish council did chase me up for an email reporting the issue on Friday.

Deeds? Ha!

Deeds are frequently messed up and i've experienced how messy they can get as i have right of way over a private track that's "owned" by 3 people/properties. Also 50% of my neighbours front garden is council/highways "owned".

In your case, there's likely a document somewhere that states the road is in fact council/highways owned that completely trumps your "special" neighbours' deeds. It's more common than it should be.