nerds waiting for new iphone

[LordSplodge]

He's just there to buy over-priced Apple gear.

Swoon. You're my hero. I'm mean nobody has ever used the Apple is overpriced argument before.

Expensive was the word you are looking for. Go luck it up, also see: luxury.

REALLY??? 3 of them wait and only 1 of them bought it? and why is the box big enough to fit a wii

That's an iPad box not an iPhone.

 

[Castiel]

By your reckoning I'm now a div. I queued up in that case for all of the extra giveaways, I wouldn't have done so for the phone alone.

If you're queuing up for a load of free stuff (and not just the remote chance of free stuff) then it might well be worth doing....but most of those loons were just queuing to get an iPhone that they could have simply signed for in their pyjamas at home.....and not spent days sitting outside an Apple Store looking like a div.

We all want new cool stuff as much as the next nerd/geek but at least be smart about it.....

 

[estebanrey]

Pretty sure it is being bought and then auctioned.

Still no need to go and wait in line of launch day though.

Swoon. You're my hero. I'm mean nobody has ever used the Apple is overpriced argument before.

Expensive was the word you are looking for. Go luck it up, also see: luxury.

Touched a nerve by any chance? 'Over-priced' is a perfectly acceptable term and seeing as it's use is subjective your attempts to correct me are asinine.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

Touched a nerve by any chance? 'Over-priced' is a perfectly acceptable term and seeing as it's use is subjective your attempts to correct me are asinine.

If something was overpriced, people wouldn't pay. So it isn't.

 

[mrk]

People always pay for things that are over priced though, just look at App.....oh wait

 

[Cosimo]

People always pay for things that are over priced though, just look at App.....oh wait

Yes, we're waiting for the punch line......

 

[estebanrey]

If something was overpriced, people wouldn't pay. So it isn't.

Odd logic there. That presupposes people can't make stupid decisions or bend to whimsical marketing ploys.

That's like saying a stuntman's job isn't dangerous because if it were dangerous then no one would do it.

But it seems you missed the bit of my post where I said value is subjective, what might be overpriced to me could be cheap to you.

 

[Things change I've changed]

I desperately wanted an iphone for years but never felt it was worth the price, not once you factor in apple care because I wouldn't own one without insurance, anyway I waited so long to get one in the mean time android phones were born into existence and matured to an acceptable degree and at a good price point, I now have a £99 android phone that I find amazing, it's never going to compare to an iphone or an S3 but there is something satisfying getting close to the functionality for a fraction of the cost, the price of a product plays a big part in how impressed I am with it, unless I was very wealthy I'm not sure I'd enjoy any £500+ phone tbh, at that price bracket my expectations are too high.

Like PC components 'price to performance' is often most satisfying, I owned the first ever Conroe cpu, the X6800 @ £600 day one, I sold it a few months later and grabbed a cheap E6300, now that is the CPU I will always remember and cherish because for what it gave me for the price, it made it an astounding cpu and the price played a fundamental part in that.

That being said I certainly don't begrudge anyone for wanting the 'best', I'm sure there are many people that get a great sense of enjoyment out of that also.

 

[Uncle Petey]

If something was overpriced, people wouldn't pay. So it isn't.

You actually believe that?

 

[estebanrey]

...android phones were born into existence and matured to an acceptable degree and at a good price, I now have a £99 android phone that I find amazing, it's never going to compare to an iphone or an S3 but there is something satisfying getting close to the functionality for a fraction of the cost

I have an S2 and my friend has the cheaper Galaxy Mini (or whatever it's called) and I must admit I've used it and whilst I wouldn't swap it for mine it does pretty much 99% the same job as mine. Same operating system, same apps etc. The only difference is mine is slightly nicer to use so I totally get your logic.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

You actually believe that?

Yes, because it is fact. If the price was too high, people wouldn't pay for it. As it happens, it is the best selling (in terms of profit) device in the world. Every year.

 

[Things change I've changed]

Yes, because it is fact. If the price was too high, people wouldn't pay for it. As it happens, it is the best selling (in terms of profit) device in the world. Every year.

I really don't think that is indicative of it being 'good value for money', more that it is just a very desirable product that people are willing to cough up for.

 

[asim18]

If something was overpriced, people wouldn't pay. So it isn't.

Erm yes it is overpriced.

It's not hard to inflate your asking price by using pointless and silly trademarks and buzzwords (eg. Retina), and by using utterly inane marketing phrases such as "the biggest thing to happen to iphone since iphone" which is designed to entice ill-informed people.

Remember the vast majority of the population is ill-informed on a particular subject, and apple have done a fantastic job at manipulating these people. Most people who own Apple products don't even know what's going on and simply believe it's the greatest because Apple clearly told them in their highly manipulative marketing.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

I really don't think that is indicative of it being 'good value for money', more that it is just a very desirable product that people are willing to cough up for.

Value is subjective. To Apple's audience, they are delivering value sufficient for the price - which is why their audience buy the products in droves and have some of the highest satisfaction ratings of anything ever.

We weren't talking about value for money, though. We were talking about price - and it isn't too high. The evidence is there for everyone to see; record breaking sales, every year.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

Erm yes it is overpriced.

See above, no it isn't.

It's not hard to inflate your asking price by using pointless and silly trademarks and buzzwords (eg. Retina), and by using utterly inane marketing phrases such as "the biggest thing to happen to iphone since iphone" which is designed to entice ill-informed people.

You're using emotive words such as nonsense and 'ill-informed' people, so it is clear you're not approaching the consideration rationally. This 'nonesense' is value marketing and messaging. A message is crafted for an audience - Apple's audience - and it works. They're able to convey the value of their products to their audience, and the price is in line with the value offered. That's all that matters.

Regardless of whatever value messaging and marketing takes place, if the price was too high, no one would pay it (classic demand curve situation).

Remember the vast majority of the population is ill-informed on a particular subject, and apple have done a fantastic job at manipulating these people. Most people who own Apple products don't even know what's going on and simply believe it's the greatest because Apple clearly told them in their highly manipulative marketing.

Even though it is entirely besides the point, for what it is worth, my technical experience, skills and academic most likely outstrips yours by quite some margin - I'm the opposite of ill-informed. I'm one of the most informed. Yet I see the value in most of Apple's products. So too do most people in computer science academia (where the Mac is the most popular), and with the world's best computer engineers (from Google to Facebook to most development shops and startups I encounter in London). So, I'd take a check on how much you band around words like 'ill-informed' when it comes to Apple's value proposition, if I were you

 

[Uncle Petey]

I'm not talking purely about apple products (which I do think are overpriced), I'm saying that people can and do pay over the odds every single day.

And a great many of Apple's audience will pay whatever price to get their hands on the latest thing. Apple know this.

 

[asim18]

For what it is worth, my technical experience, skills and academic most likely outstrips yours by quite some margin

lmao

 

[Hatter The Mad]

lmao

(I based that comment on your occupation, which is listed as: "Server Admin + IT Support").

 

[Hatter The Mad]

I'm not talking purely about apple products (which I do think are overpriced), I'm saying that people can and do pay over the odds every single day.

And a great many of Apple's audience will pay whatever price to get their hands on the latest thing. Apple know this.

And yet they would not pay if the price was too high. Why can't you see that?

 

[asim18]

(I based that comment on your occupation, which is listed as: "Server Admin + IT Support").

Then you have absolutely no idea how utterly vast the number of roles the phrase "Server Admin" covers.

I detest people who bring a Job title into a debate, especially one about marketing.

Going by your logic, you don't even have an occupation set, so you must be on JSA?

lol