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the standard is 20-25Mbps. It's already been lowered.
Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days
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the standard is 20-25Mbps. It's already been lowered.
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No, because that's what Netflix and all adaptive streaming already does. And also what the internet already does.
The point was, if 13% of all internet consumption is Netflix, and ISPs are now finding they're saturated at peak times with contention for traffic, lowering the maximum bandwidth of Netflix streams would take a substantial load off.
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I would suspect it's impacting colocation sites at slightly separate times. Though I wouldn't expect it to take days to roll out.
Source?
Everything I can find online recommends a 25Mb minimum internet connection but I can only find info that suggests the actual top stream quality is 16Mbps.
Even Netflix own site says their top stream quality will use about 7GB per hour, which works out to 15.5Mbps.
I'm not convinced it's ever been 20 to 25Mbps
Yeah, im sure the big bosses of Netflix are thinking the same while filling their back pockets.
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Standard bitrate for 1080p 24fps content is around 5.5-6Mb from netflix. It's nowhere near 25Mb. somebody is getting their Bs and bs mixed up, i expect.
But, this morning i cant get 1080p for love nor money. I seem to be restricted to 720p at best. hmm.
But, this morning i cant get 1080p for love nor money. I seem to be restricted to 720p at best. hmm.
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They're lowering bitrate not resolution. You likely have congested internet right now. And 25Mbps is the recommendation for 4k.
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4K HDR streams at around 15.xx on Netflix.
Not tried it over the past week so will go have a look and see if anything has changed
Not tried it over the past week so will go have a look and see if anything has changed
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Yes, I know what they said they were doing. My internet is otherwise fine fast.com (owned by netflix) is reporting 30Mbps download.
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If you think about it netflix is trying to provide a service everyone can use at the same time so lowering bitrate allows everyone to access their services.
I'd rather have something than nothing.
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Still streaming at 15.25 on 4K hdr content here. (Our Planet, Kingdom and Altered Carbon)
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And yet you use an analogy that is in no way comparable, but i'm the "foolish" one?
If you had of said they were reducing their content lineup by 3/4 it might have been similar, but they aren't, they are reducing the quality (of which there will be no measurable loss to the enjoyment).
Trying to compare food shortages in a pandemic to streaming media at 720p instead of 1080p though, LOL, good one.
Nobody cares about the streaming quality, it's the getting ripped off financially bit that's got people mad at Netflix.
Okay if you don't get that analogy I'll use an even simpler one: You go to a steakhouse (not right now obviously), the choices are rump for £16, Sirloin for £20 or fillet for £26, you order the fillet, then a few minutes later the waiter tells you they aren't doing fillet right now so they're going to do you a sirloin instead, but still charge you for a fillet.
You'd be mad wouldn't you? Any normal person would. That's essentially what Netflix are doing, but due to the emergency going on right now they're attempting to profit off peoples good nature in the hope they will simply suck it up. Sadly judging by this thread a lot of people are falling for it too
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The problem with your counter analogy is that people pay extra for the video quality, not the content - it's part of Netflix's own payment model.
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Well other guy is comparing it to the Milkman, you're forgetting additional devices too, so I'll stick with mine and laugh at people complaining about something so pathetic and cheap.
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Lots of people pay for the additional screens. Annoyingly they're bundled together. My mates with their two kids on separate tablets but a 1080p TV need the screens. I want the 4k. Netflix have made you pay the same fee for either or both.
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I'm not complaining about it, but when a pricing tier is specific to a certain feature, these moaning idiots do have a point.
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Sure, under normal circumstances I'd agree with you.
Unfortunately we're in unprecedented times right now and this request has gone to a number of video streaming services by the EU. A ton of people including OP have also banged on about how Netflix will be keeping huge profits rather than making some form of donation to those affected and when members inform them that they have, it's glossed over like it didn't happen. They just want to moan because they either haven't got a complimentary free month or a % drop in price relative to the % drop in bandwidth. Ridiculous all things considered.
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I agree in the grand scheme of things it's ridiculous, and I won't be asking for a refund personally (nor for Sky Sports). But I do kind of get the point, especially for those who need to save money at the moment. Doesn't Psycho Sonny work in his parents restaurant or something? I could understand in those kind of cases why people would want to save a few quid.