Netflix's Movie "Cuties"

Tiktok have had to take stuff down, related to grooming, but, it will be interesting whether Microsoft are considering their good? name before engaging.
 
NVP said:
That's the point I'm trying to make, this isn't just happening in the movie, this is happening all around us. I've seen young girls dancing this way for a long time now, so for it to finally be highlighted and then having the messenger disected instead of the message is ridiculous to me.
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I have the same opinion as you, but I admit once I sit down to watch it my opinion may change....

Tried to sit down yesterday evening and watched first 10 mins but I was just a bit too sleepy.

Some of the dancing scenes i've watched(on youtube) did make me cringe a bit and apparently it gets worse.
 
B&W said:
Except by being on Netflix where many young children can watch it, it normalises such amoral practices
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It has an age rating of 15 in the UK.
B&W said:
And I think you should actually watch some clips before saying "I've seen it all before" as this **** is next level softcore porn. I don't want to write it here as it sounds so filthy the things they actually do.
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I've seen plenty of clips, I've got the movie downloaded to watch when I get a chance.

I think softcoreporn of the past is mainstream media presently, it seems the prudish are only exposed once someone else is vocally outraged.
 
NVP said:
I think softcoreporn of the past is mainstream media presently, it seems the prudish are only exposed once someone else is vocally outraged.
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I think we should all really be watching it before giving our full opinion. I just don't watch a lot of TV in general so I need to carve out the time to do it. But i've seen plenty of clips.

I really want to figure out whether the media outrage is actually justified.
 
Again, it's rated 15.

Dangerous behaviour
Dangerous behaviour (for example, suicide, self-harming and asphyxiation) should not dwell on detail which could be copied. Whether the depiction of easily accessible weapons is acceptable will depend on factors such as realism, context and setting.

Discrimination
The work as a whole must not endorse discriminatory language or behaviour, although there may be racist, homophobic or other discriminatory themes and language.

Drugs
Drug taking may be shown but the work as a whole must not promote or encourage drug misuse (for example, through detailed instruction). The misuse of easily accessible and highly dangerous substances (for example, aerosols or solvents) is unlikely to be acceptable.

Language
There may be strong language. Very strong language may be permitted, depending on the manner in which it is used, who is using the language, its frequency within the work as a whole and any special contextual justification.

Nudity
There are no constraints on nudity in a non-sexual or educational context. Sexual nudity may be permitted but strong detail is likely to be brief or presented in a comic context.

Sex
Sexual activity may be portrayed, but usually without strong detail. There may be strong verbal references to sexual behaviour. Repeated very strong references, particularly those using pornographic language, are unlikely to be acceptable. Works whose primary purpose is sexual arousal are unacceptable.

Sexual violence and sexual threat
There may be strong verbal references to sexual violence but any depiction of the stronger forms of sexual violence, including rape, must not be detailed or prolonged. A strong and sustained focus on sexual threat is unacceptable.

Threat and horror
There may be strong threat and horror. A sustained focus on sadistic threat is unlikely to be acceptable.

Violence
Violence may be strong but should not dwell on the infliction of pain or injury. The strongest gory images are unlikely to be acceptable. Strong sadistic violence is also unlikely to be acceptable.
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It's almost like the people who are usually complained about as being "too conservative" or "too restrictive" but have to be objective, actually know the law, and have the training and experience in working out what is "appropriate" (let alone legal) and at what rating have a different idea after they've watched the whole thing in context, compared to people who've seen a couple of pictures or a few clips (at most).

I tend to find the BBFC are very cautious in what they allow, especially when it either involves children/people that look under 18, or is anything that could be seen to be harmful to them.
I didn't know about a scene involving a teenager playing with a noose in a series I enjoyed, until about 10 years later - the BBFC had ordered it cut to protect minors, despite the DVD having an 18 for violence related reasons*, and still remember when anything with a headbutt or nunchucks tended to get an automatic cut because "kids might copy it".


*So should not have been in the hands of children anyway.
 
Tephnos said:
This film is disgusting.
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Imagine actually defending vocalising issues about sexualisation of children by... depicting the sexualisation of children on camera, as if this was the only way it could be done. There are limits to what is appropriate, except for you apparently.

Come off it.
 
This is disgusting. ******** neo-liberal ideology being pushed onto people and telling them that this is "normal"

If this is the pinaccle and future of humanity, then i dont want to be apart if it.
 
Tephnos said:
Imagine actually defending vocalising issues about sexualisation of children by... depicting the sexualisation of children on camera, as if this was the only way it could be done. There are limits to what is appropriate, except for you apparently.

Come off it.
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Imagine actually understanding the message, yet still attacking the messenger.

At least this post was more informative on your opinion than your last.
 
The BBFC is a box ticking exercise, it has very specific criteria which it judges a film against, the film doesn't depict nudity or sex, but the images are quite clearly inappropriate. If you feel how the film is depicting the children is completely okay then that's fine, we can agree to disagree, but don't hide behind a rating system. A man filming children in bathing suits at the beach all day with a telescopic lense might not get in trouble for possessions of child pornography but it's clearly very inappropriate.

When Louis Theroux made the documentary about Paedophiles he noticed one of them had a picture of young male ballet dancers, the guards took it away because they deemed that they looked underage and it was inappropriate, do people even realise what sickos are out there? You're literally defending producing main stream content which paedophiles will use to gratify themselves with, it's insane. "Oh but the BBFC are okay with it". I actually couldn't care less.
 
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I wonder if some people making the point that girls do sexy dances already, realise if its uploaded online and you download it, you're on a very thin line with breaking the law.

The film itself doesn't make sense. The story apparently is how the main character is seduced in to a certain lifestyle, yet of the group she joins she the only one pushing boundaries.

There is also a scene in the film were she steals her uncles phone and takes a picture of her private parts and uploads it online. In real life the cops would be banging on his door immediately. Yet nothing happens.

There is no lesson to be learned from this film. Especially when the movie rating is higher than the portrayed characters in the film.
 
MatsyLR said:
waa...what?
Its very bizarre this got greenlit in the first place.
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She also tries to seduce an older family member, I think it's actually the same uncle she stole the phone from.

There's a scene where one of the girls lifts her top up and exposes her chest.

There's a bunch of nasty scenes like that given it's a movie about 11 year old girls, I don't really care about the 'intent' of the movie given the end result. People already know these things are bad, and the demographic the movie is about is too young to actually watch it anyway as it's a 15 or Mature rating depending on where you're from.

It's worth pointing out that I believe this is an independent French made movie that Netflix bought the rights for after it was made, I don't think Netflix actually commissioned it to be made themselves.
 
Werewolf said:
It's almost like the people who are usually complained about as being "too conservative" or "too restrictive" but have to be objective, actually know the law, and have the training and experience in working out what is "appropriate" (let alone legal) and at what rating have a different idea after they've watched the whole thing in context, compared to people who've seen a couple of pictures or a few clips (at most).

I tend to find the BBFC are very cautious in what they allow, especially when it either involves children/people that look under 18, or is anything that could be seen to be harmful to them.
I didn't know about a scene involving a teenager playing with a noose in a series I enjoyed, until about 10 years later - the BBFC had ordered it cut to protect minors, despite the DVD having an 18 for violence related reasons*, and still remember when anything with a headbutt or nunchucks tended to get an automatic cut because "kids might copy it".



*So should not have been in the hands of children anyway.
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Honestly BBFC ratings are totally nuts, Princess Mononoke which has extremely graphic violence is only rated pg because it's anime!
 
I've watched a bunch of clips from this and to be honest I'm amazed it even got made. It's uncomfortable viewing. Can you imagine how some of the artistic direction went? :o

I don't even have or want kids but this seems wrong to me. If I was to look for content like this online I'd expect a knock on the door.

I'll be eagerly awaiting the South Park episode. :D
 
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I haven't watched the film and have no intention of watching it, the topic isn't really something that I think is something that should be handled in film. However, because I haven't watched it I am not sure I can fully comment on its suitability to be aired or not.
 
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