Netgears new VDSL / ADSL Modem Router with AC wireless (D6400)

Another interesting router to try - Thomson TG799vac v2

Yup, I saw bitsnbobs thread on that one so will give it a whirl when it's out possibly.

Yep im still wondering when that is (if ever) going to hit our shores.

It appears to have been out for some time in other areas of the world. A couple of ISPs even supply them as default gear in what looks like Scandinavian countries and the odd ISP which is Asian based.

From the limited google translating i done it appears to generally be a reliable good performing device but like all Thomson stuff has a poor interface and lacking in statistical information. If its reasonably priced and performs well though i could probably live with those 2 annoyances. The DECT/VOIP functions would be a nice bonus.
 
I have seen it for sale at Broadbandbuyer very recently which is a UK site so far.

Have you? When I checked yesterday it just said coming soon.

It appears today they have finally got stock only 5 at the moment priced at £83.99 as i type this. You are both technically right for well over a month it did just have TBA listed next to it.

They are in stock at a certain rainforest.

Not on the UK site from what i can find. Or anywhere else i could find.

Spec sheet for that device is here...
http://medialibrary.thomson.net/Com...5F2931B4A3ABD40AC/DS_MediaAccess_TG799vac.pdf

Chipset is a broadcom 63268, device supports G.INP and Vectoring out of the box.
 
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I've recently found out that billion aren't planning on releasing the 8900 series until end of the year at earliest now.
As for Netgear, remember I said to you about wishing they would release a device like the nighthawk with a VDSL modem? Looks like they are in the form of the D7000.
 
I've recently found out that billion aren't planning on releasing the 8900 series until end of the year at earliest now.
As for Netgear, remember I said to you about wishing they would release a device like the nighthawk with a VDSL modem? Looks like they are in the form of the D7000.

LOL i dread to think how much that thing is going to cost £200 would be my low end guess.

I wonder how much an R8000 varient with xDSL modem built in would go for :D
 
I saw it has an mrsp of €229 but found a website in Australia with a preorder price of $398 which is just shy of £200 so you are probably right.

Considering the d6400 costs us poor uk souls £150 that new model is obviously going to be more. Its getting a bit silly now with some consumer gear being around the £200 mark :(

Thanks for that.:D

No problem hopefully you have no issues getting your sky details
 
Price on another website for the D7000 is £185. Mjgr33n posted on another forum with the link. The D7800 will be lantiq according to a member on Kitz.
 
Price on another website for the D7000 is £185. Mjgr33n posted on another forum with the link. The D7800 will be lantiq according to a member on Kitz.

A bit more info on the D7000
http://goo.gl/WQlOfP
A little confusing as to if it is broadcom or lantiq device at the moment (Im assuming broadcom as thats what its older sibbling the R7000 had for most of its components).

The D7800 varient which seems will be released after the D7000 has AC2600 over AC1900 of the D7000 but is rumoured according to an italian site to be using a Lantiq VR10 chipset for the xDSL side of things.

Id personally avoid that if it is the case, also once you get above AC1900 the benefits are smaller in REAL LIFE speed terms than jumping from just N or from say AC1200 to AC1600 or AC1900, (few wireless cards can saturate the entire stream of devices higher than AC2350, any card more than a year old may actually need replacing to see significant benefit) unless its the same or very close to the same price wise as the D6400 and D7000 it probably will not be worth the extra. Plus if you really are still depending on wireless and ACTUALLY NEED the speeds AC2xxx claims for networking duties then you really do then need your head examined as to why you have not wired your home ;)
 
A bit more info on the D7000
http://goo.gl/WQlOfP
A little confusing as to if it is broadcom or lantiq device at the moment (Im assuming broadcom as thats what its older sibbling the R7000 had for most of its components).

The D7800 varient which seems will be released after the D7000 has AC2600 over AC1900 of the D7000 but is rumoured according to an italian site to be using a Lantiq VR10 chipset for the xDSL side of things.

From the beta testers of the D7000 we have been told it is BCM63138.

The Lantiq devices are fine, majority of them just needed firmware updates, they also give better speeds on long distance lines, Broadcom give better on shorter lines.

For example the Fritzbox based Lantiq is well liked especially with firmware updates, the DrayTek Vigor 2860 and the modem only Vigor 130 with the latest G.INP/Vectoring firmwares are also well liked, even the TP-Link TD-W9980 is fine now, they have had teething issues with some models for sure but mostly they fine now, but then there are plenty of people that have had the odd issue with Broadcom based devices and have been fixed or being fixed.

The main ones still suffering are the ECI based BT HomeHub and modem and MediaTek based devices, most other devices seem to be making a good job of fixing issues

As with everything, best to check forums and read up on the firmware release notes.

I would also just stick with the D7000 as I do not need crazy Wireless speeds however the dual 1Ghz cpu in the D7000 would be a nice improvement over the dual 400Mhz one in the D6400 also not to mention the D7000 BCM63138 is supposed to be G.Fast capable so theoretically nice future compatibility.
 
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It would be the D7000 for me as I'm on a Huawei cab. I want to keep the chipset matched and hope this provides greater stability. It was solid when I tested the D6400 so I expect much of the same with the D7000 but with greater WiFi. The wireless speeds of the D7000 is more than enough for me. I don't see the benefit of faster than that (For my application anyway)
 
From the beta testers of the D7000 we have been told it is BCM63138.

The Lantiq devices are fine, majority of them just needed firmware updates, they also give better speeds on long distance lines, Broadcom give better on shorter lines.

For example the Fritzbox based Lantiq is well liked especially with firmware updates, the DrayTek Vigor 2860 and the modem only Vigor 130 with the latest G.INP/Vectoring firmwares are also well liked, even the TP-Link TD-W9980 is fine now, they have had teething issues with some models for sure but mostly they fine now, but then there are plenty of people that have had the odd issue with Broadcom based devices and have been fixed or being fixed.

The main ones still suffering are the ECI based BT HomeHub and modem and MediaTek based devices, most other devices seem to be making a good job of fixing issues

As with everything, best to check forums and read up on the firmware release notes.

I would also just stick with the D7000 as I do not need crazy Wireless speeds however the dual 1Ghz cpu in the D7000 would be a nice improvement over the dual 400Mhz one in the D6400 also not to mention the D7000 BCM63138 is supposed to be G.Fast capable so theoretically nice future compatibility.

Id personally save the hassle of hoping for firmwares that work properly with G.INP and future vectoring and avoid lantiq chipsets all together :D

The ECI openreach modems you refer to and homehub 5A devices are lantiq just like the TP-Link W9980, infact those 3 are the exact same chipset, that being the Lantiq VRX-268 chipset. The TP-Link managhes to support it via bitloading modification script in the newest firmware, the ECI and HH5A from Openreach though are basically (IMO) doomed to never support it at all.

NO Lantiq VRX-xxx chipset AFAIK has supported G.INP out of the box (by that i mean when devices were released). Some of them also do not support vectoring which is worth having as that will likely be deployed over the next couple of years. BCM63168 BCM63268 and BCM 6368 chipsets all support G.INP even on their earliest xDSL driver revisions, there has been NO device that uses those chipsets which has not supported it or needed firmware updates. Even the Homehub 5B (broadcom chipset) supports it out of the box, though thats a bug ridden mess itself (NOBODY buy one of them unless you want bug ridden junk which crashes :D)
 
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