New 32" 4K - What to get?

VA can have quite visible colour/gamma shift and colours aren't as accurate, especially on larger screens. This is a killer if you're doing any kind of colour sensitive Photoshop work. For pure gaming and nothing else, superior blacks on VA are nice though.
 
Had a play with the 32UD59 - colour shift is too obvious even on the desktop!

FreeSync isn't as beneficial as I thought it would be (I didn't know that if the game isn't "true" full screen it doesn't work) therefore the only game I play which it supports is AOTS. Even then running the benchmark with it on and off in the 30-70 FPS range I could not tell the difference.

So I've sent it back and got a BenQ PD3200U for £150 more.

The built in USB hub and SD card reader is useful (declutter!), the puck is useful to quickly shift modes - the IPS panel is perfect and to top it all off not a single dead or lazy pixel.

TL;DR: 32UD59 is too big for a VA panel to be used, don't even bother IMO.

Thanks. That settles it, got a PD3200U on its way to me now.
 
VA is superior to IPS. This is why Panasonic uses VA for its previous TV series.

It entirely depends on your use case for the monitor/TV. VA has superior blacks, but worse colour accuracy and is prone to blur and overshoot in gaming. The viewing angles are also inferior, which on a big screen can sometimes even be evident even sat in front of it, with visible gamma/colour shift.

For TV content, due to the superior blacks, VA is often preferable (although the viewing angles can be an issue if you have people sat at sharp angles), and from a visual point of view, gaming on a VA TV/monitor often LOOKS better, but the moment you get heavy blur/overshoot, it ruins the experience.

With IPS however, monitors are often more prone to bleed and glow, which in bad examples can also be very annoying when watching dark content in a dimly lit room. VA does not suffer from this anywhere near as badly... there is no glow with VA, but it can still suffer from some backlight bleed.

For professional colour accurate work, IPS is the only option.
 
So I've sent it back and got a BenQ PD3200U for £150 more.

The built in USB hub and SD card reader is useful (declutter!), the puck is useful to quickly shift modes - the IPS panel is perfect and to top it all off not a single dead or lazy pixel.

Really happy with mine. Bargain. Factory calibrated too, wasn't expecting that.
 
Really happy with mine. Bargain. Factory calibrated too, wasn't expecting that.

Indeed! Something like 0.6 DelE or whatever the unit is for me.

Puck is really useful going from sRGB to Low Blue Light.

Only complaint is the single DP but DP to miniDP works so not all bad!
 
I'm particularly pleased that my (also new) Topre Realforce has the same dark grey/black colour scheme.

Only complaint: the auto brightness sensor prefers a way brighter screen than I do, and there's no way to tweak it.
 
I'm particularly pleased that my (also new) Topre Realforce has the same dark grey/black colour scheme.

Only complaint: the auto brightness sensor prefers a way brighter screen than I do, and there's no way to tweak it.

Isn't there a setting in the osd called sensor sensitivity or similar?
 
It entirely depends on your use case for the monitor/TV. VA has superior blacks, but worse colour accuracy and is prone to blur and overshoot in gaming. The viewing angles are also inferior, which on a big screen can sometimes even be evident even sat in front of it, with visible gamma/colour shift.

For TV content, due to the superior blacks, VA is often preferable (although the viewing angles can be an issue if you have people sat at sharp angles), and from a visual point of view, gaming on a VA TV/monitor often LOOKS better, but the moment you get heavy blur/overshoot, it ruins the experience.

With IPS however, monitors are often more prone to bleed and glow, which in bad examples can also be very annoying when watching dark content in a dimly lit room. VA does not suffer from this anywhere near as badly... there is no glow with VA, but it can still suffer from some backlight bleed.

For professional colour accurate work, IPS is the only option.

My Panasonic TX-50CX670E with a VA has the most accurate colours I have ever seen on any TV or monitor.
My LG 24UD58 with IPS has the same viewing angles but nowhere near the colours to impress me, at all.

But yes, you are right that VA is slow in the response times.
 
VA is no use for colour accurate work, IPS for professional colour work.

How can IPS be suited for professional when it cannot produce accurate black colour but dark grey instead? :D

The VA panels also feature improved viewing angles and good color reproduction. Their excellent color reproduction abilities make the monitors ideal devices for color-critical work, or for gamers who want to play their games with the best picture quality possible.
https://techguided.com/display-panel-types-tn-ips-va/


However, black levels and contrast do create a visual perception of more vibrant colors due to how the human eye perceives contrasts. Thus, a VA TV with deeper, richer blacks can look like its delivering sharper, richer colors in content simply because the onscreen dark tones contrast so much more sharply with colorful objects in the same piece of content. This is something that viewers should keep in mind and a reason why black levels and high contrast are considered so important for a more realistic and vibrant level of picture quality.
http://4k.com/va-display-panels-vs-ips-display-panels-in-4k-hdr-tvs-what-you-need-to-know-19275-2/
 
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How can IPS be suited for professional when it cannot produce accurate black colour but dark grey instead? :D

Having used both VA and IPS - IPS is far more accurate - also u can turn black clipping on if its a dark image, but most of mine are not.

Its about colour gradation thoughout the spectrum - 100% adobe RGB or go home - never seen a VA do full 10-12 bit on 100% ARGB
 


What you fail to recognise is the difference between VIBRANCY and ACCURACY. A monitor with a VA panel will often have better contrast and look more vibrant... but that doesn't make it accurate. It just looks nicer. Where colour accurate work is required, this could create serious problems, especially in print media (photography, graphic design etc.) for obvious reasons. Bit-depth, consistency across the panel (where IPS often excels), Adobe RGB/sRGB colour space and colour gamut all come in to play here. As above, I've never seen VA do 10-12 bit 100% either.

Of course, this all comes with the (obvious) caveat that not all panels are made equal. There are some bad and excellent examples of them all, so they can't all be thrown in the same pile and compared based solely on their type.
 
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My Panasonic TX-50CX670E with a VA has the most accurate colours I have ever seen on any TV or monitor.
I guess you've not seen an OLED TV then? ;)

How can IPS be suited for professional when it cannot produce accurate black colour but dark grey instead? :D
It makes up for it with the accuracy and uniformity of all the other colours. From your linked article:
IPS Panels are a clear winner when it comes to viewing angle. IPS Panels, as already explained, have a wide viewing angle without any noticeable drop in image quality on the monitor.

VA panels, on the other hand, will have a considerable degradation of about 20 degrees to the side, which is seen as a dramatic loss of saturation.
https://techguided.com/display-panel-types-tn-ips-va/

VA = better contrast, which means more vibrant picture.
IPS = better colours, which means more accurate picture.

A VA panel is a good choice for a TV when you probably want a vibrant picture and any ghosting will be less noticeable given the viewing distance.
 
And absolutely no point in having more vibrant colours or deeper blacks if at an angle they wash out anyway!

I hope you are not serious. There is no wash out at angles with VA TVs.

As an idea this is super stupid because a TV is made to be looked at from any point in a room.
Monitors are not.
 
I hope you are not serious. There is no wash out at angles with VA TVs.

As an idea this is super stupid because a TV is made to be looked at from any point in a room.
Monitors are not.

Uh? The viewing angle is dictated by the panel technology! You can't change that. TV's aren't made special with that intention. We do view TV's different to monitors though... sat far enough away, that angle won't be so acute, so it's not often an issue. You don't sit with your face 60-80cm from a 50" TV, nor do you sit 6 feet away from a 27" monitor.
 
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