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Me too, if it releases on the date suggested wonder if there will be any black friday promotion to coincide with it's launch
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It looks to be same price as the LG, but with all the Dell codes that go round, it will be cheaper depending on the code used. Look at the Dell S2721DGF thread to see just how many codes come round. Add Black Friday at end of November and it might look even better on price.
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Full User's Guide was uploaded 3 days ago for AW3821DW and it still mentions G-sync Ultimate and 1-144Hz range, so it is a G-sync module. I don't really understand how can it be G-sync Ultimate if it clearly lists 600 nits HDR peak in this very user's guide, but it is listed in too many places now to be a typo.
I am interested in this display as an alternative to LG 38WN95C which is nowhere to be found and I even had two retailers tell me that it was recalled from retail and no longer sold, but maybe they just confuse 2020 WN95 with 2018 WK95... Still that would mean that they are not even aware of WN95's existence, which says enough about availability
Anyway, everything comes down to the fan, I am definitely not a buying a display with a fan, cannot think of anything more ridiculous that you could do to the monitor. The User's Guide seems very detailed and there is no information about any kind of active cooling on a freaking 70 pages that this guide has, so maybe there is hope. One would think they would put some warning about not covering the air intake or something.
I am interested in this display as an alternative to LG 38WN95C which is nowhere to be found and I even had two retailers tell me that it was recalled from retail and no longer sold, but maybe they just confuse 2020 WN95 with 2018 WK95... Still that would mean that they are not even aware of WN95's existence, which says enough about availability
Anyway, everything comes down to the fan, I am definitely not a buying a display with a fan, cannot think of anything more ridiculous that you could do to the monitor. The User's Guide seems very detailed and there is no information about any kind of active cooling on a freaking 70 pages that this guide has, so maybe there is hope. One would think they would put some warning about not covering the air intake or something.
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People forget how good the Dell Warranty is. I would pay more for that alone. To come in at a price cheaper then the LG. People forget how old the original 38GL panel is now. Its almost a year old.
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Price is coming to uk as a promo and is £1299 as it will drop discounted already. The USA price is the non discounted price but will drop there discounted as well.
Been reading on what a pain it is to get LG monitors repaired as well and that stopped me buying one, ( I have a G9 as well and love it to bits but love monitor tech )
Been reading on what a pain it is to get LG monitors repaired as well and that stopped me buying one, ( I have a G9 as well and love it to bits but love monitor tech )
£1299 sounds a little too good to be true (albeit the pricing on these 38" are still very high). That would be cheaper than the GN and that doesn't have a g-sync module.
The fact that there is so little stock of the GN and WN made me think LG have flogged this panel to other brands and we'll hopefully have more stock of those in the near future.
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Yea I still remember buying first ultrawide and the first choice was Dell U3415W. It had ton of bleed (like any ultrawide at that time) and coil whine, I called Dell, they sent another one, so I had two units to compare for one day, and then the carrier was supposed to take the faulty one away the next day. But the second one was bad too so I gave it to this carrier so it gets sent back to Dell and the original one back to the shop. Whole process took like 4 days with no cost for me. Compared to other companies when it takes 2 months and you have little chance for successful RMA this is certainly a whole different class. This was NBD warranty though, not sure if Alienware models get that too.
As for the panel, it is exactly the same in every 38" ultrawide since LG 38UC99 from 2016, only backlight has changed, and refreshrate/response times of course but this was actually introduced with GL950G so it is by no means old. The only difference is HDR600 and edge-lit local dimming on 2020 ones but 175Hz OC on the GL, not very usable since you can only do 120 Hz at 10bit 4:4:4 on all of them, but still.
Yea the price is somewhat surprising, but this is not the first time Dell releases the display with some crazy MSRP but once it gets to actual retail it is way cheaper than that. For example they released U3417W at $1200 official MSRP, and in my country $1200 displays cost around 6000 in my currency, but it released at 3900, which was around on par with $800 LG displays with the same panel.
I only hope that they manage not to gimp this panel like they usually do with Alienware lineup, notorious for scoring way lower brightness than typical for the panel used and poor out of the box calibration without a sufficient OSD controls to fix it. Though this panel came factory calibrated in every single model that ever used it since 2016, so hopefully there won't be any surprises here.
Incredible. G-Sync module and no fan? HDR600 and G-Sync Ultimate? Incredible...Full User's Guide was uploaded 3 days ago for AW3821DW and it still mentions G-sync Ultimate and 1-144Hz range, so it is a G-sync module. I don't really understand how can it be G-sync Ultimate if it clearly lists 600 nits HDR peak in this very user's guide, but it is listed in too many places now to be a typo.
I am interested in this display as an alternative to LG 38WN95C which is nowhere to be found and I even had two retailers tell me that it was recalled from retail and no longer sold, but maybe they just confuse 2020 WN95 with 2018 WK95... Still that would mean that they are not even aware of WN95's existence, which says enough about availability
Anyway, everything comes down to the fan, I am definitely not a buying a display with a fan, cannot think of anything more ridiculous that you could do to the monitor. The User's Guide seems very detailed and there is no information about any kind of active cooling on a freaking 70 pages that this guide has, so maybe there is hope. One would think they would put some warning about not covering the air intake or something.
Stumbled across this thread looking for info on the AW3821DW which I originally saw listed on the Nvidia monitor listings...
I'm looking for something ultrawide, for work and play, so the fact it's IPS would fit the bill.
If it does indeed come in around 1300, it's the same as https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lg-3...een-led-backlit-curved-monitor-mo-15g-lg.html
As others have said, I'd be inclined to go with Alienware/Dell as my S2721DGF has served me so well and so did my Dell panel before that...
But I still can't see past the Odyssey G9, despite its QA issues. The size/res, 240Hz, etc. Also HDR 1000 vs 600, Freesync compatible, for if I ever switched teams...I can get the Odyssey cheaper too, though not with the current stock issues.
Edit: It's also black/white, so that's me sold
I'm looking for something ultrawide, for work and play, so the fact it's IPS would fit the bill.
If it does indeed come in around 1300, it's the same as https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lg-3...een-led-backlit-curved-monitor-mo-15g-lg.html
As others have said, I'd be inclined to go with Alienware/Dell as my S2721DGF has served me so well and so did my Dell panel before that...
But I still can't see past the Odyssey G9, despite its QA issues. The size/res, 240Hz, etc. Also HDR 1000 vs 600, Freesync compatible, for if I ever switched teams...I can get the Odyssey cheaper too, though not with the current stock issues.
Edit: It's also black/white, so that's me sold
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The AW3821DW and G9 are totally different monitors and not comparable.
I suggest deciding what aspect ratio you want first.
That aside, the single biggest advantage of Alienware for me is the dead pixel guarantee and generally awesome Dell warranty, which overrides pretty much all other concerns.
LG produce some great monitors but they have no deal pixel guarantee at all and I've heard nothing but bad things about their support in general.
I suggest deciding what aspect ratio you want first.
That aside, the single biggest advantage of Alienware for me is the dead pixel guarantee and generally awesome Dell warranty, which overrides pretty much all other concerns.
LG produce some great monitors but they have no deal pixel guarantee at all and I've heard nothing but bad things about their support in general.
I've had LG before and never had an issue with them, but I have to say that spending over £1000 I am not happy with their attitude towards support.
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Interesting that it's gone up at $1900. There was talk about a price discrepancy and that the UK leaked pricing was it's actual sale price (not the recommended RRP) where the US was quoting the RRP of $1900 but would be for sale for cheaper.
Wonder what that means for the leaked UK price of 1300 quid because it hasn't gone up for sale in the US any cheaper than the RRP. Does that mean UK pricing will be RRP at launch and not the sale price of 1300 ? Will have to wait and see I guess.
Wonder what that means for the leaked UK price of 1300 quid because it hasn't gone up for sale in the US any cheaper than the RRP. Does that mean UK pricing will be RRP at launch and not the sale price of 1300 ? Will have to wait and see I guess.
Yeah it's going to have to get closer to £1k before it'll be worth me upgrading from my AW3418DW
Also: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/d...more-specs-information-and-g-sync-discussion/
Also: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/d...more-specs-information-and-g-sync-discussion/
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$1899 is a "Dell Price", the one that you pay buying directly from them. Looking at some examples, direct Dell price for AW3420DW in my country is 6700 while actual retail price is 4900. AW2521HFLA is 2500 at Dell and 1700 retail. Considering all of that, £1299 instead of $1899 makes perfect sense, especially since £1299 is $1700. If it comes at 1399-1499 EUR retail then that's fair enough. Hopefully it is not 1899 EUR which would make it as expensive as Acer X38P, and that is just going significantly above reasonable pricing level for the type of the display. 1.399,00 € of 38GL950G is where it should be.
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Looking around people are scared of the dreaded G-Sync Ultimate fan!!! No one seems to know what G-Sync unit it is using and so whether it has the fan or not. I don't exactly understand why that information hasn't hit the web yet, they have been on sale long enough.
"Are these new screens really G-sync Ultimate?
The current information, user guide information on Dell.com and the early press release for the new displays suggests that the screens will feature the coveted “G-sync Ultimate” certification. There seems to be a distinction with these model and others in the Alienware range that are listed specifically as “G-sync Compatible”. We know that those other models use VESA adaptive-sync to support VRR from both AMD and NVIDIA systems, but is there something different going on here with the AW2721D and AW3821DW? Have they really earned the ‘G-sync Ultimate’ badge and what does this mean?
At first it looked like the new AW2721D and AW3821DW must surely feature a hardware Native G-sync module which is, in our understanding, necessary for this certification level. Now we have more specs and info, we are not so sure. Even if they did feature a Native G-sync module it is also still likely that they could still support AMD systems via the latest NVIDIA firmware, but with the module being used this could bring about benefits in terms of VRR performance and features like variable overdrive and super low input lag.
We also understood that G-sync Ultimate requires the current v2 G-sync module, which is logical as that would be needed anyway to offer DisplayPort 1.4 and support the bandwidth necessary for the high resolutions at 240Hz/144Hz refresh rates respectively.
However the use of this certification badge has caused some confusion with consumers, and with ourselves to be honest. NVIDIA also now list both these models on their G-sync page as “G-sync Ultimate” which further strengthens the view that these will indeed carry that certification. However, something doesn’t add up here!
As well as needing to use the G-sync hardware module, NVIDIA list on their own website that the current requirements for that certification also require the inclusion of ULMB for motion blur reduction, and support for HDR, but to the HDR 1000 level. So far this has been used for the top end FALD backlit screens as well, so for truly top end LCD HDR performance.
Having scoured the information that is currently available we do know that these new models would feature the lower HDR 600 certification (only needing edge lit local dimming and a lower peak brightness) so either NVIDIA are going to relax their “Ultimate” certification a fair bit, or maybe these won’t truly reach that coveted G-sync Ultimate certification after all. We also cannot see any mention in the user guides and manuals of any ULMB/blur reduction mode, so that’s not included it seems (certainly not on the AW3821DW anyway). Finally, the provided connections on the screen go beyond the current capabilities of the hardware G-sync module v2 as well! That module can support 1x DisplayPort 1.4 and 1x HDMI 2.0 only, but these new screens have a second HDMI 2.0 port as well. So it looks like the screens might not even feature a Native hardware G-sync module. It’s really not clear."
One thing I have found in the specs is that the monitor is ( unfortunately ) edge lit.
The current information, user guide information on Dell.com and the early press release for the new displays suggests that the screens will feature the coveted “G-sync Ultimate” certification. There seems to be a distinction with these model and others in the Alienware range that are listed specifically as “G-sync Compatible”. We know that those other models use VESA adaptive-sync to support VRR from both AMD and NVIDIA systems, but is there something different going on here with the AW2721D and AW3821DW? Have they really earned the ‘G-sync Ultimate’ badge and what does this mean?
At first it looked like the new AW2721D and AW3821DW must surely feature a hardware Native G-sync module which is, in our understanding, necessary for this certification level. Now we have more specs and info, we are not so sure. Even if they did feature a Native G-sync module it is also still likely that they could still support AMD systems via the latest NVIDIA firmware, but with the module being used this could bring about benefits in terms of VRR performance and features like variable overdrive and super low input lag.
We also understood that G-sync Ultimate requires the current v2 G-sync module, which is logical as that would be needed anyway to offer DisplayPort 1.4 and support the bandwidth necessary for the high resolutions at 240Hz/144Hz refresh rates respectively.
However the use of this certification badge has caused some confusion with consumers, and with ourselves to be honest. NVIDIA also now list both these models on their G-sync page as “G-sync Ultimate” which further strengthens the view that these will indeed carry that certification. However, something doesn’t add up here!
As well as needing to use the G-sync hardware module, NVIDIA list on their own website that the current requirements for that certification also require the inclusion of ULMB for motion blur reduction, and support for HDR, but to the HDR 1000 level. So far this has been used for the top end FALD backlit screens as well, so for truly top end LCD HDR performance.
Having scoured the information that is currently available we do know that these new models would feature the lower HDR 600 certification (only needing edge lit local dimming and a lower peak brightness) so either NVIDIA are going to relax their “Ultimate” certification a fair bit, or maybe these won’t truly reach that coveted G-sync Ultimate certification after all. We also cannot see any mention in the user guides and manuals of any ULMB/blur reduction mode, so that’s not included it seems (certainly not on the AW3821DW anyway). Finally, the provided connections on the screen go beyond the current capabilities of the hardware G-sync module v2 as well! That module can support 1x DisplayPort 1.4 and 1x HDMI 2.0 only, but these new screens have a second HDMI 2.0 port as well. So it looks like the screens might not even feature a Native hardware G-sync module. It’s really not clear."
One thing I have found in the specs is that the monitor is ( unfortunately ) edge lit.
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They hit US Dell site at the beginning of this week, shipments prob only happened in the last 24-48hrs
User on Reddit has posted about their experience so far: AW3821DW arrived!
Their comment about fan noise: "I think so? I can hear a very faint sound if I put my ear to the ventilation slits, but whatever is in there is quieter than the passive sounds of my apartment."
They hit US Dell site at the beginning of this week, shipments prob only happened in the last 24-48hrs
User on Reddit has posted about their experience so far: AW3821DW arrived!
Their comment about fan noise: "I think so? I can hear a very faint sound if I put my ear to the ventilation slits, but whatever is in there is quieter than the passive sounds of my apartment."
Interesting. That inspires me with confidence because I am more likely to accept that a Dell warranty will do something if the fan goes crazy in a years time.